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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Knoppes' Self-NCR experiment
« on: January 12, 2014, 07:23:32 pm »
so here is the comment bstratt wrote that got me to perform my self NCR differently
he talks about pushing through in the 3rd paragraph

Quote from: bstratt25 on December 25, 2013, 12:40:08 pm
Thanks Tyler! And it's no problem, we're all trying to help each other here. Some people require less force to get the release than others (and will require less and less over time), the key is just getting that release each time. I'm always learning what works and what doesn't, and what's best for the majority of people.

February Richard do you have a rite aid near you? I buy the assorted cots because you can try different sizes. Chances are they are too short, but the turbinates could be very close together as well... If you inflate inside the turbinate gently, you'll separate them out over a few days, (by less than .5mm) and you should be able to get the cot through. Also try using different nasal passages until you can find one that's easy to get through- and out into the 'open space.'

The technique I use is gentle inflations inside the turbinate until they separate out just a little bit, then twist the device and push the balloon back through the turbinate until it reaches the open area. When you inflate in that "area" against the sphenoid, a cough reflex should kick in.

The technique used in NCR is different - but I don't want to say this is 100% correct, just from my recollection and talking to people. They align the balloon in the turbinate then build up a huge amount of pressure inside the turbinate, while pushing gently, and then it essentially bursts through the passage and into the sphenoid. I don't like this method because it's dangerous in my view. That's why there have been a few bone fractures (in osteoporosis patients...) in the past... and it seems you'd be more likely to lose a balloon and choke somebody. One reason I think they use this method is that your cough reflex kicks in when the balloon is inflated in the throat so it has to be swift.. but if you're doing this yourself you can learn to suppress the reflex long enough to get the release because you're expecting it.

"Reclaiming what is mine"... awesome.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Knoppes' Self-NCR experiment
« on: January 12, 2014, 07:01:12 pm »
Hi guys,
I'm newly registered to this site but I have been following it for a very long time now. And I've been performing self NCR on and off since 2011; more off than on because I think I was doing it wrong, just not getting it. It seems like a lot of people here are having the same experiences I've had for a LONG time as far as not really getting it(feeling a release/movement,hearing the cracking release sound).
Anyway recently when this forum became active again I was hoping to come across any mention of something I wasn't doing before, and I did.
It was in a recent post where bstratt mentioned something about inflating and then "pushing through" and I was like OHH maybe that's what it is.
So I started up on self NCR again but this time with the balloon I "pushed through."

*Here's what I was doing all this time, and for a long time, that wasn't doing anything(i think).
**** I would lead the balloon into a turbinate and get it as far back and then inflate it and it would inflate through the back of my throat, and just poke it's way to the other side. Don't get me wrong sometimes I would feel something that seemed like a release and I would hear a little clicky noise back there and in my ears but obviously after my experience with doing it the way I am now with 'pushing through' this wasn't enough. For me now, I know the difference and when i feel a release I KNOW it's a release. Before I was unsure.

*Here's the way I do it now(after a very long time of unsure releases).
****So now instead of leading the balloon as far back into the turbinate as I could I just direct the balloon into a specific turbinate and slip it in(not worrying about getting it super deep, but definatley feeling confident it's directed toward a specific turbinate). What I do next is give the balloon a couple pumps to get it firm(usually one and a half pump to two full pumps), and the I PUSH THROUGH into the turbinate and pump some more. Now that I am doing it this way there is no doubt in the release I am feeling and hearing. Now I know the way I was doing it before wasn't working(for me).
-just a side note for when I push through: when I push through, the balloon will usually easily find its way back into the turbinate just nicely unless I didn't direct it to a turbinate properly. If I try to push through and it feels like I'm just flattening the inflated balloon into the wall of my nose I know I don't have the balloon aligned properly and take it out and direct it toward a turbinate again.

Anyway that's the way that works for ME. I have been following these post for a long time now and just recently decided to register so I could comment this. I see a lot of people who seem to be struggling to feel a release like I have for so long, again since 2011. And it wasn't until I read that one little post that bstratt wrote about "pushing through" that I had another little bit of hope with self NCR. His comment actually mentioned something about -twisting the balloon and pushing through- I tried the twisting thing but for me personally and in my situation the pushing through method is working without twisting.
Again I just wanted to share MY experience, and I'm not saying this will help you with your release but it most definately helped with mine.
Now when I feel a release I absolutely know it and don't have that doubt of "did it do anything?"

It's only been a few days of treating this way and I feel it's doing something more that the past couple years that I've been doing it the other way. My face is wider and I actually feel that subtle soreness that bstratt mentions afterwards.

I hope this helps somebody because I know I was frustrated with feeling a release for a long time.



Oh and another thing, thank you Ben for your update photos you look really nice.
I read your comment of hopefully putting other's progress photos up with their permission I hope we can see some soon!
I always thought it was weird that there weren't any how to videos of people performing self NCR on youtube or anybody sharing them through here for each other, just a thought for any of you who are comfortable doing this, I definately am NOT lol so I guess I can see why there aren't any :p

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