Break the Matrix

I completely forgot to mention my ABC guy did actually give me a balloon treatment but only after i practically persuaded him. He really didnt seem like he wanted nor knew what he was doing even though he was trained to do it. I actually had to refrain from laughing because of how poorly he did the procedure. He also talked a very great deal of **** excuse my French, on NCR and Dr Dean Howell. He tried explaining (also poorly) on how Dean stole the procedure from the ABC creator guy which I really don't know or believe its true. But someone could prove me wrong. Basically in the end he said my skull isn't the issue and my spine is. He said it would take many many ABC treatments from him to fix my "incredibly wound up spine" and he was up for the challenge. That's when i basically gave him the finger and walked away.
I've had NCR done and it was in my opinion 100x better than what the ABC guy did to me and I actually saw results....though i'm sure others would protest me and say their ABC practitioner was much better....which i undoubtedly believe they probably were.


Another thing Norm this is just what has worked and not worked for me. It can be completeley diffrent for you and to be honest id still give it a go if i were you. I honestly have no idea what I personally am doing wrong and why my skull & body is being a little punk and not cooperating. I plan on talking to Plato and paying him to help me out and diagnose me on this stuff. Because when i met him in New York he seemed to be the smartest and most experienced person I've met whos done and come out of this stuff with great results along with his good friend Kevin and Patient Ian zero.

So if you have the spare cash and time id still give it a go man! But my experience one NCR treatment is better than my 8 ABC treatments. Then again my ABC guy didnt seem like he was the best in the field.

I was reading this page on Dean Howells website when something caught my eye. Towards the last section of this page it talks about directly moving the sphenoid bone and getting it to stay. It seems in many cases with just simply inflating the finger cot into the nasal cavity(im guessing even with massage and body releasing tecniques), it would only give temporary relief to the patients and then they would return back to the dysfunctional makeup of the body they had previously. NCR doctors seem to know exactly where and when to put the balloon in the correct nasal cavity in order for not only maximum progress, but for lasting progress that wont depress back to the patients original state. I have noticed this while performing NCR & Facepulling on myself for the past almost two, three years now. I will seem to have fantastic progress for a short time but then, somewhere down the line i notice that it seems my body and skull almost "return". It is very discouraging to say the least especially after the money and time put down for braces(damon) a second time. Anyway, besides my pitiful talking, Im starting to think its important to see an NCR doctor and receive initial treatments (not one but maybe a few). That way you yourself can document what they are doing and ask as many questions as you can so when the time comes for self treatment, you can actually get the progress you are looking for.

That brings me to Ben (bstratt). He initally had many treatments before starting self treatment himself. This would lead me to believe it is a big factor with the profound success hes had. 

What are your thoughts lads....Here is the Dean Howell website text....


"PHYSICIAN TRAINING INFORMATION FOR NEUROCRANIAL RESTRUCTURING TECHNIQUES
Have you ever been frustrated with patients whose structures continually return to the same pattern, regardless of your treatment techniques? Have you ever been upset to be told that a patient had a chronic injury and therefore could only be given brief respite from their pain? I was angry about it!

NCR is the outgrowth of over 19 years of clinical experience and frustration with physical medicine. When I was in school, my anatomy instructors were still teaching the archaic concept of skull fusion. The treatment concepts and protocols that I learned were essentially unchanged since the early 1900’s. It was only with physical medicine concepts that there seemed to be this stasis; with other aspects of medicine, there were new developments.

I learned manipulation of hard and soft tissues from men with thirty to fifty years of clinical experience. The younger doctors would ask these same men for advice when they were confused. Yet when it came to biochemical questions or questions regarding toxicity of substances, we were quick to pull out the current research. At the time I accepted this situation; I didn’t question why there were no new concepts in physical medicine. Now I do.

I think that physical medicine represents the fourth leg of natural medicine: (1) Biochemistry (2) Detoxification (3) Lifestyle (4) Structure or Physical Medicine.

You cannot often heal a physical medicine structure with nutrition, supplements of detoxification. This is because these are not nutritional, lifestyle or toxic exposure problems. In many cases, only physical medicine techniques are appropriate, and they do not work often enough.

When I looked at my training (in retrospect), I realized that there were few unifying concepts in physical medicine treatments:

        1. Bones should line up where we think they should be
        2. Muscles shouldn’t be tight.

This meant that we should push, pull, massage, exercise, stretch or use braces or other devices to coerce the muscles and bones into the positions that we thought were best for the body. To the frustration of all concerned, these patients’ bodies continually return to the previous pattern of alignment.

My realization was that these simple concepts are wrong. For example, when a patient had a whiplash injury and his neck straightened out, I decided to pretend that the body was working properly instead of being injured. I could find no conflict with the clinical findings. This meant that the body had a functional reason to align the neck in a straighter pattern. Then I needed to determine why the body needed to align this way and treat the cause. I found that the reason why the body straightened the neck pattern after a whiplash injury was to support the head more effectively. The local injury to the neck is quickly treated. This is the reason why a person with whiplash makes steady improvement when treatment is initiated—the local treatment techniques are treating the local trauma. When medical stability is realized, the local treatment is finished and the so-called chronic injury remains.

At this point, the generalized body reaction to the injury has not been addressed. What typically remains is the cranial trauma. The whiplash injury moves the head anteriorly, creating a straighter neck to support the weight of the head. The proprioceptive system moves the bones of the body into the most convenient stable pattern for the skull, even if this stable pattern causes pain and poor functioning in other areas of the body. This means that most musculoskeletal problems are not local problems—they have systemic causation. Local therapy is unable to create lasting changes in the musculoskeletal system because it is not treating the cause of the structural patterns.

Let me restate that. Cranial stability has the highest priority in the body’s physical hierarchy. It is more important than pain or musculoskeletal function. When I performed conventional physical medicine therapies on my patients, I destabilized them. Because the proprioceptive system didn’t like this, the body would return to the nearest stable alignment.

The object of treatment, then, is to find physical medicine modalities that work with the body’s proprioceptive system. The widely practiced techniques of muscle, spine and cranial manipulation have low percentages of success. Evidently they are not addressing the situation well. When I researched cranial techniques, I found writings going back into the 1930’s and even the 1920’s that reported the ineffectiveness of external cranial treatment. The conclusion of these early thinkers was that the sphenoid positioning is paramount in cranial bone positions, primarily because of the central position that the sphenoid bone has in cranial bone interrelationships. It became apparent that the sphenoid is poorly represented on the external surfaces of the skull, and the greater mass of the internal surfaces of the sphenoid cannot be accessed easily.

Practitioners developed techniques to move the sphenoid bone internally, using fingers up the nose and into the throat as well as inflating small balloons in patient’s noses—all to move the sphenoid through direct contact. These techniques are generally ineffective, yet in a few cases they proved so successful that the whole field remained tantalizing.

The question had become: How do we move the sphenoid bone and make it stay?

I had used Bilateral Nasal Specific Technique for years and found it somewhat effective. With BNS, a small finger cot is lubricated, inserted sequentially among the six nasal meati into the nasopharynx and then inflated for two to five seconds with a sphygnomometer bulb. The problem with BNS was that it was sometimes painful and generally gave only temporary results for conditions other than nasal ones (hence the name).

Patients with severe chronic problems often became permanent patients because of the relief that they received. This was frustrating to my patients and to me. While I was trying to make my treatments last longer, I discovered that the sphenoid bone’s relative position and the stress patterns in the cranial structure could be analyzed. As I began to see the sphenoid bone as a bone connected with a network of bones that collectively determined their positions, the ability to make greater changes in the bone position developed. But the treatments still didn’t last or accumulate much.

This approach is the foundation for the NeuroCranial Restructuring™. I employ methods of manipulation that have been in use for at least sixty years. However, the analysis and thinking techniques I use began in 1995."

Dean Howell, ND"

That article is very interesting but in the part where he talks about modern man vs the 10000 years back man....The Japanese and the much of the Asian cultures come to mind. These people to this day have unbelievable facial profiles and just bodies in general. Their culture is very grain filled (especially rice) and are all about making food easier for the digestive system to well, digest. Which means really cooking it(which makes foods softer). Now many of these health forums you hear them ranting how if we eat more raw foods it will help with a plethora of things and not to mention your jaw muscles.....but then once again i go back to the (using them as prime example) Japanese. They have stuck to their culture and are a very healthy people ( especially compared to the west and even some the east) with broad faces, large jaws and huge cheekbones. I used to tell my friend as a light hearted joke "dude picture all the girls here who aren't Japanese see with the facial structure of alot of these Japanese girls" after some explaining he goes "holy crap man your right they would all be drop dead gorgeous." I apologize if that offends anyone but i think its true in a sense. Most of these people in Japan seem to have stuck to their culture and you can see the amazing it has done for them. Especially their gorgeous women  . haha all jokes aside though. While i do see where calming power writer is coming from in that area of his article I dont think its really what the real issue is. (but when the hell is it just one thing right? haha)

Any thoughts?


P.s. I know calming power never said anything about Raw foods but Ive heard of the chewing theory and it usually gets tied in with it. It really just seems the Japanese culture who i used as an example, dont do all that much chewing vs America.
Yet have retained much of the strong facial structures.


Sources: I know many Japanese strong cultured families who still abide by the cultures practices. All with outstanding facial profiles

Id contact Plato on the facepulling website.

Hmmm I saw this a long while ago. forgot all bout it. Hopefully someone here has tried it and then the even better and harder step is getting them/themselves to actually post some progress or info.

I've never had extractions I still have my wisdom teeth and everything thank god I told my dentist don't take them out which she wanted to for no reason what so ever. I mean who the hell decided that wisdom teeth should be taken out for the hell of it? She had absolutely no reason to want to take them out. Dumbass dentists I swear.

Anyway besides my rant, I do think I might be pulling to hard because the last several sessions have left my face feeling awkward and aches. its just hard to find the right pulling force and stay there because the rubber bands are always moving and I cant seem to stop them. Its all very frustrating....very frustrating.

Another thing I've noted down in my notebook is that my teeth grinding at night has actually increased noticeably. I've been waking up with my jaw clenched and slightly grinding still and it really is a horrible feeling. This just recently started happening according to my girlfriend and my own observations.
So I will be pulling with MUCH less force even though it feels like I've already reduced the force considerably.

 On a side note as well I've been getting ABC chiropractic...although it feels like its helped some, my posture (even though not bad) has not visually improved although he says it has. I really hope he knows what he's doing. Every Practioner is different...

This January man....I swear there is something weird in the air. Not good things not good things. haha

Hey everyone I was wondering if anyone who has been doing facepulling, has been noticing an increase in an open bite. For whatever reason may it be the facepulling or damon braces fault as well...my open bite has increased while still, my results have been good and very noticeable with before and afters and let me tell you I was facepulling for a good long 7 months with a custom hooked retainer and its wasn't until I got braces I saw any changes or results haha. So if any of you are having issues with results with just a retainer, the braces thing really worked for me. Anyway let me know if any of you have any ideas or similar experiences. My ortho still has no idea im facepulling which is the reason I got braces a second time but he is now trying to run elastics to "close my bite". I do not know if I trust this.

Thank you all

-Connor