Break the Matrix

By the way, I didn't mean to imply that he doesn't look good. I was just wondering what the longer term effects of face-pulling might be for myself -- it's all about me really! And for some reason when I saw the nasolabial folds I thought maybe pulling the mandible has had some impact.
I honestly think he looks really great, and in no way was it a criticism or to imply that he needs to actually do or fix anything.

But also thanks for sharing those bits of info MM. I will take a look into them!
Quickly scanning the list, I take a form of liquid silica too, but I use it because it helps the body detox heavy metals.

Thanks for the links Messiah.

I quickly looked at Ian's photo and maybe it is the lighting, but I was struck by the deep lines around his mouth from the corners of his nose. I wonder if all that pulling on that part of the face causes some stress?
It could also be a number of other factors as well, including simply poor lighting, but wondering if others have any thoughts about it.

Oh, you look Great!
Every time you have a session you seem to look more and more relaxed, and funnily enough, soft. It as though an inner part of you is letting out a big sigh and saying 'Ahhhhhh!' !!

I've noticed that it is as though before NCR everyone's face is drawn to a point somewhere in front of the middle-ish of their nose.
And after NCR it as though someone has pushed their face outward and backward from that point.

I still haven't started self-treating or having a treatment, so looking forward to seeing changes when I finally do!

Thanks for updating!

Ok folks, I've been using the mouthguard and shoelaces for about 5 weeks or so. I don't pull for very long (probably only about 5mins or so), and there have been a few days that I missed.

It was hard to chart the progress for a while mostly because my face gets puffy very easily and I have chronic fatigue and am always trying out new detoxes etc. which set me off. So there were days that I was looking in the mirror and thinking 'wow, my eyes are so puffy and weird (or something) and does my face always look like this??' And I couldn't tell what face pulling was doing as my face would flare up and it was as though the face staring back at me was quite distorted.

Many years ago I had some terrible dentistry done, and one of the things that I had to do was wear this wire thing that clamped around my upper back teeth whilst I slept. It was supposed to push my back teeth further back to 'theoretically' create more room for my other teeth that were cramped and not sitting straight. Now of course I realise that this thing was effectively pushing my mandible back, and doing the very opposite to what I'm now doing with the shoelaces and mouthguard.
All that time of wearing this thing to bed every night resulted in quite a flat face. Though I'm only really realising how flat it was now.
The biggest thing for me has been that I'm starting to get a chin! It is a bit weird getting used to seeing it there, and when I look at my face from 3/4 it seems odd to have to pop out at me, as opposed to being receding. 
And I think I've also noticed that the bridge of my nose is coming out further - something which freaked me out at first, as my immediate thought was 'my god my nose is getting bigger!' But what is happening is that the whole face is slowly starting to gain more dimension, and so my eyes are simultaneously seeming more deep set.

All the changes so far are miniscule though really, we are talking fractions of a millimeter here, especially as I don't have a helmet so don't do it for 30mins.
I'm sure that no one else has noticed anything different!

As to whether I look better, it is hard to say. I probably look more balanced as the lower half of my face isn't receding so much. Though my face, to me, looks more boney. As it was flatter, it seems more harsh now and as though I need extra bits of fat. But as it is my face it is hard to tell which bits I'm simply getting used to.

I have taken some lowish light photos just with the camera on my laptop, and I can see more clearly in those that my face somehow seems more compact, less long, less frowney and more pleasing. When I look in the mirror though, I see a face that is slightly different, not necessarily better, or more classically good-looking, just a little different, more sculptural, more harsh, and the skin/bags under my eyes seems to bulge more (something the camera doesn't pick up).

The differences between what the camera likes and what the eye prefers is interesting. The camera definitely likes more sculptural qualities. Whilst in the flesh sometimes I feel like I miss some of the softer bits that used to be there. Though I also know that my face was/is problematic in that it is asymmetrical and crooked, and whilst I have high cheekbones, they were fairly non-existent directly under my eye, and that part is now becoming slightly fuller and less sunken.

I will definitely keep going as I have back issues and feel that it must come from the jaw. That is my main aim actually, a hope that doing this will sort out other structural issues I have.

Finally I haven't noticed any differences in how people approach me, or my relation to the world, as others have reported.
Though now that I think more carefully about it, maybe I am a little less withdrawn, possibly not so much in my behaviour, but in the sense of simply wanting to move out into whatever is before me without hesitation. It is all still early days though.

Hope everyone else is going well.

Oh dear.
I hope that you are ok now.

I haven't started NCR yet, bit intimidated and worried that I'll do it wrong. I've only been doing a little bit of face-pulling.
Perhaps try a cranio-sacral osteo as they are very gentle. And: Be Careful!

So I FINALLY got a mouth guard and made some holes etc. yay!
Mine is made of some kind of gel like plastic, which is probably what they are all made from. Part of me worries that the holes might stretch or something, but hopefully everything will stay put.

My big question for those who are doing it this way, how do you know if you are pulling at the correct angle? Are you pulling up more, or away from you more?
And are you putting your tongue on the shoelace the whole time?or keeping the guard in place by gritting your teeth a little? - just not sure where the tension should be with regard to the mouth.

Love some advice.

Oh thanks so much Tyler! Such a considered and thoughtful reply.
I think it is precisely these concerns that have had me dragging my feet a little. And I feel much better now. It is incredible to me that your friends and family haven't noticed the changes. But then again I was thinking of how so many people look so different to their photos. A little while ago I met a bunch of people that I had only ever seen a little passport-like photo of, and I barely recognized them. I've also heard it said that some people who are incredibly beautiful/handsome in life photograph terribly and vice versa. I once saw a girl who I thought was extremely plain, she had makeup, hair and lighting applied as part of a fashion shoot, and became stunning. I remembered being stunned. It is something to do with the camera picking up bone structure in a way that the human eye doesn't privilege perhaps. Some people have theorized that when we talk to someone we see an animated face as attractive. Who knows though.

I do want to do this. I had terrible dental work done in my teens and they forced my teeth back. I don't have a lower jaw and my profile is very sunken. I have very large teeth and a very small jaw. It has also caused sinus problems and I'm beginning to think that my one leg shorter than the other is from the dental work.

I really think you look wonderful. And that is great your singing voice has more of a range. I'd love to sing. Can't at all!