Break the Matrix

Yep.  Weston. A. Price was one of the first to discover 'Activator X' which was abundant in the diets of tribal people.  Many believe that this was what we now call, vitamin K2.  Our gut flora is supposed to make it for us.  Stephen Guyenet talks a lot about K2 on his blog.  But poor gut function, poor diet etc. and artificial light according to Dr Jack Kruse, can prevent the gut flora from making it.  In fact, artificial light can cause weak bones/muscles, in general.

Thanks for your replies, both.  Much appreciated! It would be much cheaper to only need an upper expander.

That said, I have a mild overbite and my lower front teeth are crowded, despite having 4 pre-molars extracted for braces, when I was a teen. (Huge regret. Did nothing for me, except take my healthy teeth!).  I was worried that the upper palate would become more 'C' shaped following expansion, but the lower would still be narrow and inside the 'C'.

There's a thread on this site, where a few users tried a mouthguard and a shoelace.  They got a moldable mouthguard, (think Amazon sells), punched holes in it to thread the shoelace through, inserted over teeth, and proceeded to pull the laces upwards/forwards with their hands.  They posted a photo of it on,  'What are people's face pulling experiences?'  thread.

Looks like there's no force on the chin or forehead.  But,  I wonder if having something over the teeth would mess up the bite...Maybe if it's only done a few mins at a time, it's ok
 

Yeah, they mainly sell fake braces.   Funnily enough, they also sell fully functioning palate expanders with screws, retainers and other otho equipment.  They even send impressions kits, so it's made to measure.  Someone on CP's forum, also got the 'Y Plate' expander, but there are other ones, too. 

Problem is, you'd be overseeing your own treatment, essentially. How would you know if it was going wrong?  Might be worth asking a willing, ortho to check on your progress,  if any of us try this.

Certainly with me, my lower teeth are crowded, but my bite is ok, so if I just got an upper expander, I'd mess it up.  That said, I'm seriously considering  getting something from there..

You're right.  It probably is my perception because I'm paying more attention to things that didn't bother me, before.  Now that I'm trying to make changes, I'm taking notice of every little thing.  For example, I didn't realise that my head posture, when looking in the mirror, is rarely straight on.  Either, my head is tilted back/eyes down, or it's tilted forward/eyes up. Now, I'm noticing how my eyes look with the correct posture.

That said, the sclera isn't terrible.  Not at all.  In fact, someone would only notice if they're really close up.  But, because I'm aware that there isn't supposed to be any at all, I'm more picky about it, I guess....

I've re-started face pulling, but more gently this time.  Think my face looks a tad fuller?  But, other times, I think I'm imagining it!  Not sure what the feelings are above my eyes... Perhaps the pulling is doing something to my sinuses.

Will proceed with caution from now on, just in case it's not helping, as you say.  But, if things improve, I wouldn't rule out some self-NCR in the future, if I can learn how to do it. 

Ah, gotcha.  Thanks for clearing that up! So, it doesn't matter if my teeth are in contact or not, when I'm face pulling.  But will the interaction with the device, cause the upper teeth to retrude? I'm a bit worried about this, especially as I have a 'tongue-between-molars' posture due to lack of space, and I tend to mouth breathe when I'm asleep...

@nobody.  Thank you for your reply and diagram.


I get what you're saying...Over the past year, I think my back posture has become a bit straighter because I've been 'barefoot' exercising and wearing shoes, less.  This has resulted in strengthened ankles and straighter/more spaced out toes. (I believe Dr. Mew is currently doing research on the form /function of the feet, and body/oral posture, so that will be interesting...) Now, if I stand up straight and look straight ahead in the mirror, the sclera does show a tiny bit.

I think you're right that my posture is changing, but my maxilla hasn't swung upwards/forwards yet.. (Actually, the sclera probably isn't as bad as I imagine...It's not really noticeable unless looking close up. It also seems to go through periods of improving and regressing, which is things adjusting, perhaps)  Come to think of it, I've always had a 'tilted upwards' head and I guess my features just adapted to that, even though it wasn't optimal...

However, my side cheekbones came out a bit since I've been mewing.  However, I have a tongue-between-teeth thing happening on the right side of my dental arch, so I doubt my maxilla can properly go up/forwards, until that's sorted.  Can't for the life of me expand it with my tongue though.