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Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 03, 2017, 03:25:34 am »

Hi there, new person. Sorry about your name pick, but I won't call you by that name, or myself for that matter.

Actually, I want to try and .. say something to you about that (the depression) here, although it would be easier to offer you some relevant text. You haven't requested that, though, so I really can't point you in any direction, even if it is very relevant and may answer quite many of your probing questions. Actually, I have information about some relevant text that could answer many of your probing questions as well, lady with the paper bag over her head, but you haven't asked about that either.

I can offer you this, though - my own experience, which perhaps you will find to be different than what you've encountered to date.

I fought depression myself for a long time, and ... some days, I still do in fact. But actually, I eat more green vegetables today, and drink milk for the energy, and explore the use of herbs for curiosity and excitement over what potential salubrious effect they might have on me. I don't live in any kind of bliss or Nirvana, but my existence is ... well, satisfactory to me.

I suppose I had tried to touch on the subject in some earlier posts, that in the viewpoint that I have accumulated now, I would say that there is a difference between wishing to be somebody we aren't, and so wishing to have the beauty of somebody else, and then simply developing into the best possible version of ourselves ... Obviously, I cannot say what your nature is, but, for me anyway, the actual striving in order to develop into my own best appearance is satisfying, because as I improve my beauty, my vitality, my nourishment, and also am learning skills along the way to help me do that, then the whole thing makes me .. actually a bit optimistic, and I just think about who I might be when it's all been done to completion.

I look .. at my own face now and then, after I have made a bit of progress, and try hard to imagine what I would look like, if I had more vitality, more life in the eyes, warmer skin, and so looked like the best, most beautiful version of myself ... And then, I try to make those things come true, either by taking in more nourishment, or by getting outside for a walk in nature, or sometimes by even forming the basic volition to think a nice sentiment about myself instead of the usual self-loathing and lies, and yes I'm also trying to put the adjustment on my bone structure with these gentle applied forces ... all because the whole, greater thing ... even almost a spiritual thing ... calls me to hold my thoughts in the cognition of what might be, instead of bemoaning what is.

.... although, I have to *recognise* reality before I can begin to make positive improvements, that is true. But ... I would say to anyone ... that they don't only have to think about the negative reality, because they can also uplift themselves with the positive idea of what could be.

....

If I may say to sum up ... it's good to dream, and not be defeated by the harsh reality all too often. Although, it's possible that these forums are weighing too heavily on one aspect, the boney aspect of beauty, and neglecting that .. nourishment, nature, fresh air ... and even dreaming a dream of absolutely anything at all, to uplift the mood a bit ... all play a role in shaping true beauty eventually. And, of course it takes patience ..

I hope this all helps :) .. Salome
Posted by: InferiorerThanYou
« on: May 03, 2017, 02:42:42 am »

I've had similar thoughts as PaperBag, especially since my spiritual endeavors lasted around 5 grueling years of looking for answers day in and day out and coming out with nothing. The reason why myself or anybody goes into spirituality or any other form of self improvement is out of a feeling of not being good enough. The same thing of course applies to trying to improve your looks, which is fine, because I am not satisfied with how I look either; I have cranial dystrophy as well and the past year or so of gorging on articles and videos about it have made me hyper aware of it. However, at the same time, I know that what I am chasing is an imaginary benchmark of being "good enough" (whatever that means). I know that even if I got the perfect face, that that wouldn't really solve the problem. I don't even know why I don't feel good enough; I guess the large majority of people who feel this way don't know either, but everyone goes on trying to fill the hole or prove the idea wrong.

Maybe there are some people out there who have gotten somewhere by wrestling with the problem, but I personally have never seen any; I've seen people who act like they're getting better due to getting really good at ignoring their thoughts/problems or whether or not some new method seems to be going well for them, but they eventually revert back to feeling like they did before - the same has been true for me. Personally, I don't see any point in trying to prove anything wrong or try and fix anything, because it's been proven repeatedly that there's no winning. When you look at the rare person who genuinely feels good about themselves, you'll see that it's effortless and they're not fighting with their ideas in order to feel a certain way. If you really loved yourself, you wouldn't need to convince yourself of it; in fact, the opposite of loving yourself wouldn't mean anything to you. In quite a few celebrities with a troubled past, you can see them post on Twitter/Instagram, etc. empty quotes on how they're getting better or how much they like themselves, etc. but you can tell it's incredibly hollow.

I often think that getting more external attention about looking good would make me feel better, even though it wouldn't; I've been told I look good quite a few times, but I still think I'm hideous. I find it odd how there are a fair amount of people who are unattractive and don't seem to care about it, it's just like "Yeah, I'm ugly as hell!" - even though I don't understand the people who don't want to improve their sub-par looks, I think it serves as a good example on how they are not fighting a battle about it and so they are at peace. To me, trying to change how you feel about anything is just reinforcing the idea of "I am someone who needs fixing" and so you'll never arrive.

Even if my face changes, I have no hope that I will feel attractive or stop feeling depressed, etc. because the idea that I can feel something I am not feeling right now/naturally is just fantasizing. Since I feel all these negative things naturally, these things are true to me and trying to get rid of them is kind of silly, because trying to feel "different" is just covering up the negativity that's already there. I don't even mean to say all this as another game of "If I pretend to not change, then I will be given what these teachers have promised", it's just more so a matter of seeing the way things are.

By the way, this has nothing to do with discouraging trying to fix your appearance, since I will be continuing to do all that I can, it's just stopping trying to change how you feel about yourself, because unless it's a natural feeling, it's just you at war with yourself.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 03, 2017, 12:53:13 am »

Actually, tonight I really agree with you, about what you were writing.

I just didn't want it to go so far that people reject their own faces ...

But, actually the more that I develop, I begin to feel like my actual inner nature is showing more in my outer appearance. I've always felt like a bit of a fighter inside, but looked so weak growing up that I assumed I was born to be a dweeb.

I didn't mean to take away from your progress by bringing that other stuff up.. and, I don't like those "red pill" sites. Me, I just feel excited to see what my end-development self looks like. Then I plan to go from there.

I guess you guys feel more like the same as me, eh?
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 02, 2017, 11:17:07 pm »

I don't really have the knowledge worked out entirely for myself "PaperBag", but I do study about these things.

I agree with a lot of things you wrote. You've thought about this a lot, yeah?
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: May 02, 2017, 11:00:08 pm »

I think most of us are in the "the orthodontic messes me up and I want awesome health" category. If anyone thinks their issues are all due to not having good facial development that's just a level of blaming outside yourself and not being fully emotionally mature yet.

Can it cause tons of health problems? Yes. I attest to that. But like anything, let it forge you in the fires of your own strength and come out of it stronger. That's the only healthy way to deal with it... growing from it, and not just sitting with the negative feelings without action internal or external - just my opnion on it :)
Posted by: PaperBag
« on: May 02, 2017, 09:29:31 pm »

No argument here. There are many people who aren't necessarily attractive but still appear vibrant, just like there are models who are attractive but resemble a statue because of their vacant stare or cold attitude.

It'd be intriguing to know if most people in these face communities are wanting results for the sake of health and unlocking their true looks, or if the underlying assumption is that being attractive would instantly cure their self loathing. Obviously, everybody should look good, I'm not disputing that. It is annoying when orthodontic patients or people who developed poorly rightfully object to their situation and say they were robbed, and it's met with "oh, you're just being vain! looks aren't everything", "you look just fine, what are you talking about?", or even odd defence mechanisms about attractive people having bad personalities like sainthood is directly proportional to having eye bags and sleep apnea, which is BS. We all deserve to be healthy and looking good.

On the other hand, it would seem as if some people are misguided and assume that their looks are responsible for every problem they've ever had. This can be seen in the vitriol spewed at attractive people for daring to say they're depressed or facing some other issue. (though I won't act as if there aren't a ton of people who fake and exaggerate their problems for pity or to come off as relatable) Many news stories about someone committing suicide is met with confusion when the victim was beautiful, which probably reflects others' thinking patterns of "my life would be great if I had *that*", that being looks in this case. I'm not trying to sound "blue pilled" or give off a "just-world" vibe because no sh*t good looking people have better lives than unattractive people, but I think it's mistakenly framed as the ultimate cure all.

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Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 02, 2017, 04:04:32 pm »

A big part of that has to do with the health of the psyche, and not just the bone structure.

A lot of people are beautiful, but look lifeless too, such as many models.

And a lot of people don't have the most beautiful faces or whatever, but they still have a life in their eyes.

So I think that putting all our eggs into the one basket is not so good, since it's pretty easy to turn it into an obsession and never end up satisfied. No doubt this is how some models start with a bit of cosmetic surgery, look wonderful, but still haven't worked on their psyche's health, so then they take it too far and end up destroying their beauty.

Just something to consider, imo.
Posted by: PaperBag
« on: May 01, 2017, 10:22:41 pm »

Quote from: MeltedFace on May 01, 2017, 10:00:02 am
Thanks for being kind Tyler, and everyone else. I know we are hard on ourselves... but I feel better always changing and growing as a person all around, not just this one place. I've got a Phoenix mindset you know?

I forgot to mention in my post above that I wasn't referring to you or implying that your photos reinforced my constant judgement of people's faces. Not to be disingenuous, but you look pretty good despite the asymmetry and other things. Like, I see all of the issues that you've mentioned, but it's not disastrous. I was considering making a thread asking how women can have dystrophy and appear more harmonious than dystrophied men (smaller skulls? less reliance on needing a broad chin?), but the answer could probably be summed up in a single post.

Quote from: Tyler
I've been there too, heavy in the evaluation of others.

Actually, it's not easy to put into words how my outlook changed, but these past years, I have been striving to connect myself in conscious willingness to the creative, and striving to broaden my acceptance of other forms of beauty.

I have a somewhat longer face myself, and for a long time I was haunted by it because I could not accept its logic. I also used to see images of Sarah Jessica Parker, and let myself be influenced by the poison against her that's spread in the media, which in turn poisoned me against my own longer face type.

One day, though, I looked at her image from youth, and saw that she is actually highly beautiful, only the poor woman .. has likely been so run down through all of the vitriol spat in her direction, her once beautiful blue eyes have been turned dour and put off from their natural colour, and her face has become worn down. Yet in her youth, she was as beautiful as any queen, and everything looked prosperous in her face.

Around the time that I saw that, I looked to another image, of Liv Tyler the woman who played Arwen in the Lord of the Rings film, and it led me to the recognition that beauty is not a matter of a face being long or short or round or square, but rather very high proportional beauty and uniformity is in every face so long as the body is cultivated and purified. Both woman have a longer face, so it cannot be the length of the face that determines the beauty, but the health and cultivation and purity of the body that determines that. A favourite book of fairytales also taught me the same lesson, so then I deepened my recognition of the truth in reality.

It pains me badly (at the moment of writing) to see our Jessica in images still smiling through the poison vitriol that is spat her way through the ugly, dirty lies of the media. It just makes me so upset. But if it helps others to learn the truth, then there is at least a value in it, although I wish her a true and full recovery.

I looked up old photos of Sarah Jessica Parker, and she did used to be cute, but there's just as big of a chance that her appearance has gotten worse over time because of long faces having less support to them, so she could have ended up aging worse than ideally. Being the butt of infinite "horse face" jokes for years must be a factor, too, it's not like decades of being insulted wouldn't harm your psyche. A lot of SJP's newer photos have her wearing a ton of makeup around her eyes, so I can't judge any changes to her eyes too accurately. Going back to what I said to MeltedFace, I think women can "get away" with having lacking facial development, or rather, it requires severe damage for women's faces to truly begin to look "off" and Sarah in her earlier years is an example of that in action. Perhaps a better explanation or reasoning is women's neotenous appearance during their teens/twenties causes their lack of facial structure to not be as apparent (especially to people who don't obsess over maxillas 24/7), then as women get older, the divide between hot and not becomes extreme.

Liv Tyler is often used an example of an attractive long face, and I agree. She seems to have features that a typical long face doesn't, such as good eye support and full cheeks. IMO, she looks a lot like Danielle Haim from the band 'Haim'. They're a group of three sisters, all of whom have long faces and look kind of weird except for Danielle, though the other two seem to photograph better compared to being in motion.


Quote from: Progress
Very relatable. Learning to study faces can be really disheartening. On an instinctual level there is a huge difference in the vibe I get from mathematically proportional / harmoniously grown face (even if the features themselves are ugly) than when looking at a face with a disharmonious structure.

It's cruel to say, I know, but a great face gives an appearance of a wholesome and real personality, while disharmonious face feels off in a way that is almost physically draining. Harmonious and proportional faces give off the impression of a coherent and distinct personality, while disharmonious faces are "nobodies", as if you couldn't get a clear feel of their personalities.

The reason for this, I believe, is that biologically the brain is hard-wired to be able to automatically analyze a person's many facial characteristics that the combination of bone & soft tissue translates to in a proportional face. When the bone structure is weak, recessed and not properly aligned with the soft tissue, the brain will have a hard time analyzing the face. The proportions and shapes of the improperly grown face are different than what the brain has evolved to handle, giving the brain less usable information from which to construct the mental prototype of that person's personality, or vibe. This is why proper facial growth almost always gives off a distinct sense of unique personality and improper facial growth feels like a lack of personality.

Yeah, I fully agree with you on that. It's kind of funny and ironic that I know how bad my own face is (and am never not aware of it) but when seeing somebody with significant, horrendous dystrophy, my judgement switches from less of an innocent "noticing" of flaws to a type of contempt or shock and awe. You may be onto something with personality correlating to facial development - I have thought that for a while, but I like your explanation. I've never felt like I've had a real personality, and though the cause for that goes well beyond just looks, I remember being 8 years old and thinking my reflection in the mirror made me look totally lifeless. For at least 15 years before knowing about facial structure, I always thought I was uniquely ugly ("there are ugly people in the world, but I am a special kind of ugly") and looked like a general non-entity. At least partially because of that, I have a disconnect between the fantasy personality I constantly daydream of having/using and the boring, nothing-there drivel that comes out. I've never even been able to talk to family members without several filters on, resulting in never acting how I want or saying what I want, smiling is forced and unnatural, and feeling like a "nothing" as a result. That's obviously a huge mental issue and I'm fully aware becoming attractive wouldn't solve it, but it's interesting how all of that is perfectly captured in my face as well. Comparing my own face to various celebrities, they all have a certain spark to their face that becomes immediately apparent when looking at them. I think Justin Bieber in particular is a good example of what you said about the brain constructing a vibe by looking at someone's face. Regardless of him being classified by many as somewhat of a D-bag, I find his face very "simple" to look at, as if there's no decoding of his features to be done and it's easy to see his personality in a glance.
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: May 01, 2017, 06:53:09 pm »

Well I do have a melted face lol. My opinion of myself is good, as i just want my health and outsides to match my insides. But I'm brutally honest with myself... not so much with others. And I think it's good that we all treat and try to see others as valuable, in the face of our ow biological preference to respond to beautiful appearances.

It's a balance of being self aware, apprecaitive, and recognizing when we are responding to people (including ourselves) a certain way and why...
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 01, 2017, 02:32:27 pm »

I understand the sense of your post, and it corroborates at least partly with what I've studied about the matter as well. A brighter, healthier face can lead to a more positive mood.

But it can't be true that beauty and personality only come from the physicality of the body, because even invalids have a creative spark in them, that essence of especialness that doesn't die even if the body becomes too weak to move or becomes damaged through a stroke or whatever.

I don't exactly disagree with what you posted, but think that the work that we do on our bodies will go a lot better, if it is viewed as bringing our already existent inner beauty to the surface ... like letting the wonder trapped in a rose's seed blossom in the rose's petels and leaves and stem. Because, there are also very many beautiful people who don't have much inner beauty or self-love, and I think that being externally beautiful where self-love is lacking does not make them any more joyful then, right?

(Then, also there is even the question, do you actually have any self-love?)

So can there be no more treating this whole thing like it is a way to make valueable what is worthless? Since with a name such as "MeltedFace" and an attitude of critique, to me it appears like there cannot be much real joy at the end, even if great external beauty is achieved. But an attitude of self-refinement, of letting the inner beauty simply come out to the surface through working on the body ... there is a very nice thought in that, in my opinion.

Posted by: Progress
« on: May 01, 2017, 02:19:54 pm »

Quote from: Tyler on May 01, 2017, 02:08:25 pm
I don't know about that .. I think you may be taking it too far now, and neglecting to view others as human, which is a real danger and a risk. Even though the physicality of a person may not show their inner nature and inner beauty as clearly on the surface, there will still be a personality to be seen in the eyes - always. It may only be that it is weak, but that is really the real best place to look, isn't it? The outer may change and it may even be great to achieve great beauty in the external, but if the inner is worked on and cultivated, then it is still better than to be beautiful on the outside but lifeless and defeated by misery from within.

I can't exactly say that what you've written is completely false, but in any case it appears to me too negative and, yes, cruel as you had observed yourself. There is also the positive to consider, that anybody can work on their body to bring it into a better health and appearance, and even if the body isn't able to be cultivated all that well due to disease or infirmity or whatever, there will still be a relatively absolutely fully developed personality there within, and there is a beauty still to see. Anybody who is ready can see it still, even in the infirm.

I see where you're coming from. It is not of course as black and white as my post may imply, I intentionally used such rhetorical contrast to make my point clear.

Eyes are the most direct window to the soul, I agree, but eyeballs alone don't provide much information. Most of the impresssion is created by eyelids and the surrounding soft tissue, position and shape of which is hugely influenced by the underlying structure.

A great ersonality truly is the most important thing you can have in life, but in the end the face is a filter through which the personality shines. The personality creates the content, while the face provides the context.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 01, 2017, 02:08:25 pm »

I don't know about that .. I think you may be taking it too far now, and neglecting to view others as human, which is a real danger and a risk. Even though the physicality of a person may not show their inner nature and inner beauty as clearly on the surface, there will still be a personality to be seen in the eyes - always. It may only be that it is weak, but that is really the real best place to look, isn't it? The outer may change and it may even be great to achieve great beauty in the external, but if the inner is worked on and cultivated, then it is still better than to be beautiful on the outside but lifeless and defeated by misery from within.

I can't exactly say that what you've written is completely false, but in any case it appears to me too negative and, yes, cruel as you had observed yourself. There is also the positive to consider, that anybody can work on their body to bring it into a better health and appearance, and even if the body isn't able to be cultivated all that well due to disease or infirmity or whatever, there will still be a relatively absolutely fully developed personality there within, and there is a beauty still to see. Anybody who is ready can see it still, even in the infirm.

Posted by: Progress
« on: May 01, 2017, 01:59:59 pm »

Quote from: PaperBag on May 01, 2017, 01:57:14 am
How are you becoming able to see others' beauty? Since discovering claimingpower/this forum and the tropic premise in general a year and a half ago, I can't help but judge, evaluate, and categorize every face I see on TV and in public. It's disheartening to look around and see so many people who could look fantastic but didn't develop properly, so it feels like a stretch to attribute negative qualities as a unique trait or sign of individuality when those imperfections ideally wouldn't be there at all, if that makes sense. This is just difference of opinion, but I'd like to know how your perception of yourself is increasing because now that I know exactly what's wrong with me, getting complimented would feel extremely patronizing, although you unlocked some good looks a while ago, assuming your old face pulling results have held up.

Very relatable. Learning to study faces can be really disheartening. On an instinctual level there is a huge difference in the vibe I get from mathematically proportional / harmoniously grown face (even if the features themselves are ugly) than when looking at a face with a disharmonious structure.

It's cruel to say, I know, but a great face gives an appearance of a wholesome and real personality, while disharmonious face feels off in a way that is almost physically draining. Harmonious and proportional faces give off the impression of a coherent and distinct personality, while disharmonious faces are "nobodies", as if you couldn't get a clear feel of their personalities.

The reason for this, I believe, is that biologically the brain is hard-wired to be able to automatically analyze a person's many facial characteristics that the combination of bone & soft tissue translates to in a proportional face. When the bone structure is weak, recessed and not properly aligned with the soft tissue, the brain will have a hard time analyzing the face. The proportions and shapes of the improperly grown face are different than what the brain has evolved to handle, giving the brain less usable information from which to construct the mental prototype of that person's personality, or vibe. This is why proper facial growth almost always gives off a distinct sense of unique personality and improper facial growth feels like a lack of personality.

Quote from: Tyler on May 01, 2017, 10:54:45 am
it led me to the recognition that beauty is not a matter of a face being long or short or round or square, but rather very high proportional beauty and uniformity is in every face so long as the body is cultivated and purified. Both woman have a longer face, so it cannot be the length of the face that determines the beauty, but the health and cultivation and purity of the body that determines that. A favourite book of fairytales also taught me the same lesson, so then I deepened my recognition of the truth in reality.


A good argument supporting your point is that despite shapes of the face and its characteristics varying wildly over the world, harmonious and proportional faces can be found everywhere in all continents and among all ethnicities. There may be phenotypes with longer midface, such as the Brits, or phenotypes with broad and round faces like in Asia, but the proportional rules that make up a beautiful face are the same for all humans.


It's nice by the way how active the forum has been lately. There seems to be a steady influx of new active users at the rate of 1-2 per month.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 01, 2017, 11:04:50 am »

Also, while it may not interest many, I am up-to-date on a very interesting UFO case surrounding the Swiss man named Billy Meier, and a short excerpt from one such interesting conversation from his life has gone like so (although it has been translated into English because he is Swiss and so the words were originally spoken in Swiss German):

"43. The proportional beauty of the Earth human being was already recognized in ancient Greece, which is why the human beings surpassing this standard of beauty were called ADONIS [good-looking ones].

44. At that time, the Earth human being was somewhat wild, so the real beauty was only recognized in a few, while those, through whom it was recognized, were called the beautiful ones, if I use the current Earth human terms for it.

45. At the present time, however, since the Earth human being has discarded his greatest wildness and consciously cares for his appearance, his given beauty comes to validity in its entire appearance, so today, in this regard, the majority of Earth humanity can be spoken of as Adonis forms.

46. This refers to the Earth human being’s physiognomic, shape-related and proportional appearance.

47. The Earth human being is one of the most well-proportioned and best-looking human life forms in the Universe, who is only somewhat surpassed by his actual ancestors, who have reached the best possible perfection in proportional regard.

48. The difference, however, is no longer very great because the material form is subject to limits and cannot be extended."

So then, to me that is simply saying, cultivate the beauty and look after the beauty and do not let it atrophy through neglect, and then be an Adonis!  ;D

.... Oh! There is one more thing. It may sound odd, but actually ... I found those viral videos interesting, too, especially the "Don't Judge Me challenge". It is just amazing how mangled hair and a bit of blemish can change the beauty drastically, and simply correcting surface issues can so drastically and magically reform the beauty - as if by a miracle.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 01, 2017, 10:54:45 am »

I've been there too, heavy in the evaluation of others.

Actually, it's not easy to put into words how my outlook changed, but these past years, I have been striving to connect myself in conscious willingness to the creative, and striving to broaden my acceptance of other forms of beauty.

I have a somewhat longer face myself, and for a long time I was haunted by it because I could not accept its logic. I also used to see images of Sarah Jessica Parker, and let myself be influenced by the poison against her that's spread in the media, which in turn poisoned me against my own longer face type.

One day, though, I looked at her image from youth, and saw that she is actually highly beautiful, only the poor woman .. has likely been so run down through all of the vitriol spat in her direction, her once beautiful blue eyes have been turned dour and put off from their natural colour, and her face has become worn down. Yet in her youth, she was as beautiful as any queen, and everything looked prosperous in her face.

Around the time that I saw that, I looked to another image, of Liv Tyler the woman who played Arwen in the Lord of the Rings film, and it led me to the recognition that beauty is not a matter of a face being long or short or round or square, but rather very high proportional beauty and uniformity is in every face so long as the body is cultivated and purified. Both woman have a longer face, so it cannot be the length of the face that determines the beauty, but the health and cultivation and purity of the body that determines that. A favourite book of fairytales also taught me the same lesson, so then I deepened my recognition of the truth in reality.

It pains me badly (at the moment of writing) to see our Jessica in images still smiling through the poison vitriol that is spat her way through the ugly, dirty lies of the media. It just makes me so upset. But if it helps others to learn the truth, then there is at least a value in it, although I wish her a true and full recovery.

...

Anyway, once I had achieved that cognition, which I suppose is not actually so difficult, then .. well, I suppose the rest should have to come later.

But there are simply so many faces of beauty hidden in plain sight. Although from my experience now, from these gentle face-pulling exercises and face muscle exercises and nutrition, I simply do not feel sad anymore because I've been able to achieve a lot of success on my own beauty, so certainly others can too. So what reason is there to feel sad, if beauty can be had by simply anybody who will strive for it?