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Posted by: therealadam
« on: January 20, 2017, 10:46:15 pm »

Quote from: MeltedFace on January 19, 2017, 04:59:39 pm
It's not me, but there's a young man (26) on YouTube named PJ Wilson - check out his great channel. This image is him using ALF (Adult Lightwear Functionals) after 9 months with a holistic dentist. He is expanding his palette and correcting an underbite without surgery:

Profile Pic: https://imgur.com/a/76IEP

This is his latest video: https://youtu.be/CxQJ755ZCeQ

I'm really encouraged and had other members suggest this to me. I'll be asking an Orthotropics dentist about it from a consultation, even though I can't yet afford care...

His profile is amazing and smile looks so different!!!

That cheekbone expanding looks promising. Just tried it out; think I'm going to add it to my routine. Great Post!!!
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: January 20, 2017, 10:27:04 pm »

The difference is that his dental arch expanded, but his actual maxillary bone did not expand.

Here's a video with mew that might clear things up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCNqbvOALZI

Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: January 20, 2017, 03:30:23 pm »

So from that, PJ's profile change was from bone remodeling but not growing new bone? Is there a difference between them? I'm out of my depth big time too but curious :)
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: January 20, 2017, 02:50:50 pm »

Yes, I believe your right. Light forces merely remodel the shape of the bone. Whereas higher forces open the sutures and allow new bone to be formed within this opening. However, don't ask me to drill down into the mechanics any further than this , because we are seriously entering into territory that is beyond my pay grade.
Posted by: Progress
« on: January 19, 2017, 11:03:53 pm »

Quote from: QuantumLookMaxer on January 19, 2017, 08:53:13 pm
I believe the ideal is the semi-rapid rate proposed by mew. The reason you want semi-rapid rate is because you need enough force in the expander to force the sutures in the palate to separate and therefore the maxilla to expand. If you go ultra-slow you'll only get alveolar expansion, which isn't that awesome and won't create too much change from a health or aesthetic stand point.

What does alveolar expansion consist of though, if not expansion through the maxillary sutures? As far as I understand, alveolar process is a part of maxilla itself. Is it a matter of bone remodelling vs new bone formation through opened sutures?

I think this may be related to my own results, as my palate has widened while facial appearance seems to have stayed the same.
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: January 19, 2017, 08:53:13 pm »

I'm definitely no expert. But I know that Mew expands at a semi-rapid rate of about .5-1mm per week. Rapid expansion goes at about 1-2 mm per week I believe. And the DNA and homeoblock appliance people go at the ultra slow rate of about 1mm per month.

I believe the ideal is the semi-rapid rate proposed by mew. The reason you want semi-rapid rate is because you need enough force in the expander to force the sutures in the palate to separate and therefore the maxilla to expand. If you go ultra-slow you'll only get alveolar expansion, which isn't that awesome and won't create too much change from a health or aesthetic stand point.

How you measure this I have no idea. I just eyeball it and if it hurts badly I stop expanding. I would like to hear some advice from someone who's seen a professional, and I am thinking of consulting with one myself.

Mew also recommends chewing on hard stuff to ensure that you teeth are firmly rooted in the gums, so that the teeth don't tip during the expansion.

That's about all I got. I'd love to hear experiences and thoughts from other members.
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: January 19, 2017, 04:59:39 pm »

It's not me, but there's a young man (26) on YouTube named PJ Wilson - check out his great channel. This image is him using ALF (Adult Lightwear Functionals) after 9 months with a holistic dentist. He is expanding his palette and correcting an underbite without surgery:

Profile Pic: https://imgur.com/a/76IEP

This is his latest video: https://youtu.be/CxQJ755ZCeQ

I'm really encouraged and had other members suggest this to me. I'll be asking an Orthotropics dentist about it from a consultation, even though I can't yet afford care...

His profile is amazing and smile looks so different!!!
Posted by: dadfa
« on: January 16, 2017, 08:49:25 pm »

I would love to hear someone's opinion on this.
Posted by: dadfa
« on: January 08, 2017, 10:33:38 pm »

Hello everyone,

On this forum there has been quite a bit of talk on palate expanders. I know many individuals from various internet forums have ordered their expanders from various sources. 

But, I want how are you guys using them, and how much do you know to expand? And are guys getting advice from a professional or are you doing it on your solely on your own.

Thank you