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Posted by: therealadam
« on: January 08, 2017, 10:53:59 am »

Quote from: Betterbytheday on December 22, 2016, 09:46:21 am
@therealadam

Curious where did you get your myobrace, and what size?. I have one of the cheap replicas, I dont even think it is even a myobrace just a plastic gum shield with a hole (more of a retainer sorta thing). I need something to stop my mouth breathing at night and the myobrace looks like it would benefit me.
Hey sorry for the late reply, was out of the country for vacation and didn't have any internet. I bought both the the A2 and A1 palate expander. I got the A2 from eBay, there are myobraces there occasionally. I got my A1 from alibaba: https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Myobrace-A1-Appliance-for-tooth-crowding_60515825254.html. I don't know if it was this exact seller that I bought from. You can also get the A2 from alibaba, but I would suggest buying the A1. The hard plastic of the A2 and the A3 expand too fast and just tip your teeth. The A2 and the A3 are also described (I think) on the myobrace website to be used for primarily the alignment of the teeth (A2) and as a retainer (A3).

I bought the regular size; I don't know if they have other sizes. If I were you, Id buy a large too and see which one is better.

I modified my myobrace because it doesn't cause too much expansion on its own and I think you would plateau very quickly. I also think if you had a large palate already, it might actually make it smaller.
Posted by: Progress
« on: December 29, 2016, 05:44:31 am »

Quote from: MJON on December 28, 2016, 11:50:17 am
QuantamLookMaxer, not so much that it didn't work it's just my progress has slowed down. Also I've realised I have a tongue tie, so any results I do have will probably revert unless I get my tongue tie sorted. So I definitely need professional intervention too. I'm back to wearing my palate expander however; figured I'll be getting professional help within the next few years so I may as well do as much as I can by myself now.

What made you realize the tongue tie? I've been a little paranoid about the possibility of having some subtle posterior tongue tie. I can push on the soft palate but sometimes I wonder how much beyond soft palate, into the empty space in upper throat, you are supposed to get the tongue?
Posted by: MJON
« on: December 28, 2016, 11:50:17 am »

QuantamLookMaxer, not so much that it didn't work it's just my progress has slowed down. Also I've realised I have a tongue tie, so any results I do have will probably revert unless I get my tongue tie sorted. So I definitely need professional intervention too. I'm back to wearing my palate expander however; figured I'll be getting professional help within the next few years so I may as well do as much as I can by myself now.
Posted by: Betterbytheday
« on: December 22, 2016, 09:46:21 am »

@therealadam

Curious where did you get your myobrace, and what size?. I have one of the cheap replicas, I dont even think it is even a myobrace just a plastic gum shield with a hole (more of a retainer sorta thing). I need something to stop my mouth breathing at night and the myobrace looks like it would benefit me.
Posted by: therealadam
« on: December 22, 2016, 05:12:47 am »

Quote from: MJON on October 12, 2016, 08:24:34 am
Not so great, I've basically given up until I can afford to have ALF and professional help alongside it. I think it really helps having a bit of both- self driven improvement but also a professional input. Having said that, if you just want to do NCR I think it's fine without professional help.
That's disappointing to hear. I hope you see good results with ALF.  I've ordered a removable palate expander that I'm going to use for face pulling (with rubber bands and a hockey helmet).

So far I've used a myobrace that I've modified into a pseudo palate expander. It provides outward forces on the teeth, but doesn't put out enough force onto the soft palate to expand too much. Both my upper and lower palates have expanded; I think it is mostly teeth tipping and maybe some bone remodeling. I've gotten better facial symmetry and good tongue posture. The myobrace is nice because it makes good mewing posture easy and it stops me from mouthbreathing in my sleep; gives decent jaw gains too.

I've also been using a Jawzrsize. This I would recommend to people. Gotten some good hypertrophy in the masticators. It and with other facial exercises have made my face more symmetrical and lifted my cheeks.
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: October 15, 2016, 05:37:36 pm »

MJON, your self-expansion experiment didn't work out for you? Fill us in with the deets when you get the chance. I ordered one for myself to mess around with, but I'm not expecting much. It hasn't caused any damage for you, right?
Posted by: MJON
« on: October 12, 2016, 08:24:34 am »

Not so great, I've basically given up until I can afford to have ALF and professional help alongside it. I think it really helps having a bit of both- self driven improvement but also a professional input. Having said that, if you just want to do NCR I think it's fine without professional help.
Posted by: brownpanther
« on: October 11, 2016, 08:34:57 pm »

How is everyone's journey with NCR and Face Pulling going? Is there anyone here that have seen great results and would love to share with the rest of us?