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RegisterPosted by: Ryan
« on: January 11, 2016, 05:59:46 am »Check out this video from Mike Mew. Look at the picture int he background. You can see you are right!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9OqEd5z1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh9OqEd5z1k
Posted by: Ryan
« on: January 08, 2016, 05:18:10 am »IS the way you push your tongue up, by pressing the top of young tonge into that sort of hollow side , halfway in your mouth? Can you explain more in detail how you put it there and how you push
Posted by: Ryan
« on: January 08, 2016, 05:16:16 am »Hi ThinkItChangeIt,
I think you're right when it comes to the correlation between the the shape of the palate and the shape of the face. I think for this reason it is harder to push the tongue up for people who has a maxilla that is down and back, because it feels the tounge does not naturally fit well there. I'm not sure which came first, as the chicken and the egg concept. Do people without the right palate, not push their tongue up or do people who do not put their tongue up not get the right palate? I think they're both possible, because one relates to the other. If you were born having the 'right' shape of your skull, then apparently then there had to be a reason why you stopped doing that, and if you were born with possibily something like a nutricient deficiency (like K2 deficiency) then possibly your basic shape was already not right to begin with, which then resulted slowly in an even more down and backwards placement of the maxilla. So basicly I think you're definately on to something there, which is worth investigating more! Good work!
Greets,
Ryan
I think you're right when it comes to the correlation between the the shape of the palate and the shape of the face. I think for this reason it is harder to push the tongue up for people who has a maxilla that is down and back, because it feels the tounge does not naturally fit well there. I'm not sure which came first, as the chicken and the egg concept. Do people without the right palate, not push their tongue up or do people who do not put their tongue up not get the right palate? I think they're both possible, because one relates to the other. If you were born having the 'right' shape of your skull, then apparently then there had to be a reason why you stopped doing that, and if you were born with possibily something like a nutricient deficiency (like K2 deficiency) then possibly your basic shape was already not right to begin with, which then resulted slowly in an even more down and backwards placement of the maxilla. So basicly I think you're definately on to something there, which is worth investigating more! Good work!
Greets,
Ryan
Posted by: ThinkItChangeIt
« on: December 06, 2015, 02:11:40 pm »Hi everyone. Hope you're well!
This thread is about face pulling. Getting that maxilla up and forward in the face. I have followed the work of the almighty Mike Mew and took on his advice about putting the tongue up in the palate and pushing up. I had braces when I was younger and I'm sure I had a palate expander before the train tracks. I'm glad that I didn't have any extractions! Anyway, my tongue fits up in my palate, even better now after having it up there for some months. I think my tongue has expanded the palate naturally. When I first began putting my tongue up in the palate, it was difficult. It was very tiring because of course I wasn't used to it. Over time I began moving my tongue further and further back up in the mouth. This brought the lips in, which they adapted to over time. I now push the palate up with the whole my tongue. Pushing up with the back of the tongue is very important. I've also improved my neck posture so my neck is pretty much fully straight instead of curved. Now I don't always keep this posture because it makes me look like I have even less of a jaw. But pushing the maxilla with the tongue feels a lot more powerful with correct neck posture.
Something that I have noticed with my upper palate is that it curves downwards. I don't think this is right. It should be straighter. I think having a palate that curves down is what creates a longer philtrum. Does anyone know if this is true? Anyway, as my tongue is as far back as possible and pushing up. The tongue is not pushing the front part of the curved down palate just before the upper front teeth. The tip of my tongue finishes just before it starts curving slightly down.
I've attached some pictures to show you...
Here is a picture of a skull. Notice the straight palate. It even curves slightly upwards.
http://imgur.com/UP9mDob
Here is a picture of the inside of a mouth. Notice the longer, straighter palate.
http://imgur.com/XaOeRf9
Here is a picture of Angelina Jolie. I presume that she has a straighter upper palate. Maxilla is up and in front, which lifts the mouth and nose.
http://imgur.com/1p2ajqk
Now here is a picture of some guy with a maxilla that is down and back. I presume his upper palate might be slightly curved. Notice how he tilts his head, which creates a sloped forehead. Also look how far his mouth drops down in the image where I turned his head to the correct position. Also how his nose drops down too, making him look like he has a big, bumpy nose. If his maxilla was up and forward, his nose would look way better.
http://imgur.com/rckDQTn
Here is a skull I photoshopped to make the palate curve down. Yeah I know it's crappy!
http://imgur.com/ikPdYd4
Here is the image before photoshop...
This is where I think face pulling needs to be done. Pulling up from where the palate curves. Maybe it will straighten out? If what i'm saying is true. This means that using the tongue alone won't change everything. It might push the maxilla up slightly but you're still going to have that long philtrum and bumpy nose if you have one. Let me know what your thoughts are on this! Is what i'm saying correct? I could be totally wrong. Check your palates. Do they curve down slightly?
Thanks for reading!
This thread is about face pulling. Getting that maxilla up and forward in the face. I have followed the work of the almighty Mike Mew and took on his advice about putting the tongue up in the palate and pushing up. I had braces when I was younger and I'm sure I had a palate expander before the train tracks. I'm glad that I didn't have any extractions! Anyway, my tongue fits up in my palate, even better now after having it up there for some months. I think my tongue has expanded the palate naturally. When I first began putting my tongue up in the palate, it was difficult. It was very tiring because of course I wasn't used to it. Over time I began moving my tongue further and further back up in the mouth. This brought the lips in, which they adapted to over time. I now push the palate up with the whole my tongue. Pushing up with the back of the tongue is very important. I've also improved my neck posture so my neck is pretty much fully straight instead of curved. Now I don't always keep this posture because it makes me look like I have even less of a jaw. But pushing the maxilla with the tongue feels a lot more powerful with correct neck posture.
Something that I have noticed with my upper palate is that it curves downwards. I don't think this is right. It should be straighter. I think having a palate that curves down is what creates a longer philtrum. Does anyone know if this is true? Anyway, as my tongue is as far back as possible and pushing up. The tongue is not pushing the front part of the curved down palate just before the upper front teeth. The tip of my tongue finishes just before it starts curving slightly down.
I've attached some pictures to show you...
Here is a picture of a skull. Notice the straight palate. It even curves slightly upwards.
http://imgur.com/UP9mDob
Here is a picture of the inside of a mouth. Notice the longer, straighter palate.
http://imgur.com/XaOeRf9
Here is a picture of Angelina Jolie. I presume that she has a straighter upper palate. Maxilla is up and in front, which lifts the mouth and nose.
http://imgur.com/1p2ajqk
Now here is a picture of some guy with a maxilla that is down and back. I presume his upper palate might be slightly curved. Notice how he tilts his head, which creates a sloped forehead. Also look how far his mouth drops down in the image where I turned his head to the correct position. Also how his nose drops down too, making him look like he has a big, bumpy nose. If his maxilla was up and forward, his nose would look way better.
http://imgur.com/rckDQTn
Here is a skull I photoshopped to make the palate curve down. Yeah I know it's crappy!
http://imgur.com/ikPdYd4
Here is the image before photoshop...
This is where I think face pulling needs to be done. Pulling up from where the palate curves. Maybe it will straighten out? If what i'm saying is true. This means that using the tongue alone won't change everything. It might push the maxilla up slightly but you're still going to have that long philtrum and bumpy nose if you have one. Let me know what your thoughts are on this! Is what i'm saying correct? I could be totally wrong. Check your palates. Do they curve down slightly?
Thanks for reading!