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Posted by: MJON
« on: July 03, 2017, 07:01:09 am »

I found the link in a comment on one of CPS posts about shortening the face, here are the comments:
"While I can appreciate that much of what you say regarding beauty is true, your solutions leave much to be desired. Here is some information for you. My husband is an oral surgeon so he is very educated on the topic. Interestingly, Tad therapy is available now for shortening of the midface. It is cutting-edge as patients would usually need maxillary impaction surgery to shorten the midface. Now, steel posts called TADS are attached inside the mouth in the gum area above the teeth, strong rubber bands are attached and the teeth are pulled upward as the bone resorbs. It is truly amazing because it is much less invasive than having jaw surgery. As the teeth go up, the midface shortens but inevitably the patient then needs a liplift. If you are interested, I can send you a scientific study with pictures that show the results.
"For those of you interested in TAD therapy for vertical maxillary excess, I have listed several links. I am sorry for taking so long but I just visited this site again. I am receiving TAD therapy from Dr. Howard Henry in Scottsdale, AZ. He has move my teeth, jaw and alveolar process back at least 3 mm. Now, he is moving my teeth up. This is truly amazing and it works"
And this was one of the links. It looks like they usually do this for patients with severe issues and before surgery,but obviously this link shows its effectiveness without surgery. Interesting that she still looks good without all her teeth as she has had extractions before surgery; perhaps it's not about having all your teeth, it's more about when the face is a certain height and then you take away some of the teeth, the face kind of crumples in on itself. This method has made sure her face has come forward (making it look shorter, wider and better) rather than the face developing down as the spaces close.
I wonder if this method would work on people without extractions? It just seems like a more scientific version of facepulling to me, with the affect being 24/7 and inside the mouth instead of outside. And how would Mike Mew react if you went to him asking for it; he seems to be one of few who is open to trying to methods and is testing methods currently. No doubt he would be impressed with the before and afters.
Posted by: TheNo0n3
« on: June 28, 2017, 06:18:52 am »

Unelievable, amazing results but If we ask our ortho to do that to us he is probably sending us back home, ahahah
Beats me, I seriously cant understand them. You go to an orthodontist as a kid or as an adult, it doesnt matter and they won't tell you "Hey, wanna know why your teeth are crooked? Because you are breathing through your mouth and your tongue is not up" or they put you braces and in the end they put retainer, instead of saying "Hey, stop mouthbreathing and put your tongue up, so your teeth dont need a retainer". Its not that they dont study this, they perfectly know those reasons, what mouth breathing causes, what the lack of tongue support causes, what weak facial muscles cause. Last time I show to an orthodontis a picture he had on his wall of removal palate expander and he laughs saying "You want this?". And I tell him "I learnt about mouth breathing etc.. and I plan on not doing it and think there will be more result" and he is like "aah, yeah, you are not wrong". Or when I got the tmd I told him "I was thinking of strenthening the facial muscles" and he says "Yea, thats not a bad idea". So why are they not saying this stuff, why dont they address it, it really bugs me. I am usually more of a conspiracy guy and certainly dont believe that things are really in the help of humanity but I am pretty sure their lecturer didnt say "Don't tell them the causes, it will ruin the industry and you wont make so much money", so why no one says it, I just cant  answer myself this and I didnt really ask him why anyway.
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: June 27, 2017, 01:29:10 pm »

Such a wonderful result that's awesome!!!
Posted by: jamone
« on: June 26, 2017, 10:27:06 am »

That is by far the most impressive result I have seen using non surgery method. Wow.
Posted by: MJON
« on: June 26, 2017, 03:43:48 am »

http://www.jaypeejournals.com/eJournals/ShowText.aspx?ID=3380&Type=FREE&TYP=TOP&IN=_eJournals/images/JPLOGO.gif&IID=262&isPDF=YES

Check out her before and after, think it's some of the most solid visual evidence I've seen so far. And that's despite having teeth removed. Perhaps it's not about having all your teeth, maybe it's about the forward development? Because she has had extractions but still has amazing results from what looks like very long term (over 2 years) treatment. I think the treatment is basically what facepulling does but with screws instead. Thoughts?