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Posted by: nicolettemala
« on: June 21, 2017, 06:53:25 am »

Quote from: jamo716 on June 14, 2017, 06:36:49 pm
I am personally going to stick to oral posture for expansion. My incisors actually have a distinct gap between them now, whereas they used to be so tight together from braces that nothing could fit between besides floss.

I am not worried about this as I suspect the other teeth will align themselves accordingly, and the gaps will close over time.

It's all about being patient and committing to a long term solution. That being said, if you are older you may not feel this way.
I have been training in myofunctional therapy, and practicing when I remember for little over a year, I do not have that much expansion. It wouldn't be out of the question to say I forget alot. How long have you been using your tongue??
Posted by: dadfa
« on: June 17, 2017, 05:19:49 pm »

Does anyone know if this expander has any advantage over others?

https://www.bracesshop.net/en/active-plates/23/modified-stretching-plate?number=0078.8
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: June 15, 2017, 05:53:17 pm »

Just make sure to expand at least 1mm per week and chew hard things while expanding. Chewing hard things ensures that you not only have good muscle tone, but that your teeth are firmly rooted in your jaw as well, which reduces the chances of teeth tipping.
Posted by: Doumi
« on: June 15, 2017, 04:06:15 am »

Oral posture surely is better than nothing, but it's not really enough to achieve prominent expansion. If you, like me, have very narrow face, flat cheekbones and dead-like eyes, you really have nothing to loose with the expander.
Posted by: jamo716
« on: June 14, 2017, 06:36:49 pm »

I am personally going to stick to oral posture for expansion. My incisors actually have a distinct gap between them now, whereas they used to be so tight together from braces that nothing could fit between besides floss.

I am not worried about this as I suspect the other teeth will align themselves accordingly, and the gaps will close over time.

It's all about being patient and committing to a long term solution. That being said, if you are older you may not feel this way. 
Posted by: Progress
« on: June 14, 2017, 11:44:31 am »

Quote from: asdfasdf123 on June 13, 2017, 05:15:18 pm
Quote from: dadfa on June 13, 2017, 12:47:26 pm
Quote from: Jaw Breaker on June 13, 2017, 11:11:31 am
Can expenders be use in conjunction with Damon braces?

I believe not. Expander goes first, then the braces.
Braces are a scam. Plain as that. Once you expand a certain amount your teeth will naturally align itself. The root cause of crowding is not having enough space for your teeth to fit in the lower and upper jaw. Expansion fixes that by widening the palate and enlarging the lower jaw via GH secretion that accompanies improved nasal breathing. Therefore, expansion is all you need.

Calling braces a scam is slightly unfair, their existence is merely a result of a misguided approach. Good intentions combined with low awareness is a recipe for disaster. Nevertheless, braces are not completely dysfunctional, they can be used to fine tune the alignment of individual teeth very effectively. Much more can go wrong with the function of dental arches than just having a deficient palate. But for many of us here it certainly is all you need, as you say.
Posted by: dadfa
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:47:26 pm »

Quote from: Jaw Breaker on June 13, 2017, 11:11:31 am
Can expenders be use in conjunction with Damon braces?

I believe not. Expander goes first, then the braces.
Posted by: Doumi
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:02:06 pm »

How to Expand like a Pro in a Nutshell

Based both on internet research and personal experience.

You order your expander (="Active Plate" for the upper jaw) including the impression kit from bracesshop.de. They send you the kit first, you make your impressions and send it back to them. Within two weeks they send you your custom made expander. Voilą, it fits perfectly.

I expand approximately one turn (=0.25 mm) every other day. The max amount of expansion for this expander is 8.5 mm.

Thanks to the fact that I have gone through traditional orthodontic treatment, I have a very good sense of what pressure and pain is "normal" and what could possibly be harmful for my teeth and jaw. If I was able to wear the expander during the whole day, I think I could expand even faster, maybe one turn every day.

Sources:
Mike Mew - Youtube video "Is Palatal Expansion Possible In Adults By Dr Mike Mew"
https://www.realself.com/question/palate-expander-for-24-year-work - answer given by Brad Lockhart
Posted by: Jaw Breaker
« on: June 13, 2017, 11:11:31 am »

Can expenders be use in conjunction with Damon braces?
Posted by: dadfa
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:17:31 am »

This has been a widely discussed topic with not enough reliable information. It seems many orthodontists do not want to use expanders and will rather only use daemon braces. I know there have been many people who have used expanders by themselves, however with the exception of asdfasdf, not many are willing to share any information.

My only concern with expanders is running the risk of misaligned jaws.

A guide would be great!
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: June 12, 2017, 06:45:23 pm »

Is anyone up for a post on it for a newbie / person like me who knows nothing about it? I would love a walk through on things for non-surgical expansion as it seems like an art form but the info is spread across a lot of areas with a lot of filler posts between.

Thank you!