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Posted by: dadfa
« on: May 13, 2017, 08:53:11 pm »

According to CP he says the Maxilla Method does work. But, he has not said much about it.
Posted by: Dr Jesse Jutkowitz
« on: May 05, 2017, 11:06:41 am »

I have posted this elsewhere but check the thread on handling bodies.

It will have a better answer that you can implement.
Posted by: reenochrobinson
« on: April 30, 2017, 07:51:25 pm »

I had forgotten, but CP mentioned in his latest post that Dr. Mike Mew is planning to try something like this:

"incorporating bone anchorage expansion / maxilla pull, new headgear he has designed, ultrasound to soften the sutures, physiotherapy, very ingenious ways to get the correct vectors for pull force."

He says they spoke sometime around December, and it makes me wonder if CP discussed his experience with Neymar's technique, or if he is keeping those details confidential even from Dr. Mew.

Posted by: PaperBag
« on: April 30, 2017, 12:02:06 am »

Quote from: reenochrobinson on April 29, 2017, 08:11:08 pm
From what I can tell, CP hasn't written a new post since January, and Neymarjr10 hasn't made any comments on the site since July of last year. I think it's now fair to surmise that Neymar's technique isn't the panacea he claimed, but I'm still curious about it. With all of the talk of preliminary minor surgical procedures, my best guess is that he combined temporary skeletal anchorage devices (TSADs) with extra oral traction (basically facepulling from micro-screws directly in the maxilla). Perhaps CP had one of his TSADs come loose from pulling too aggressively and that's why he would have required another surgery to continue. Since Neymar supposedly enrolled others to try his method, I wonder what changes they have achieved or if they also encountered problems.

Do you think my theory makes sense? I am envisioning securing a few micro-scews into the arch of the maxilla behind the lips, somehow affixing a removable facebow, and then using elastics to pull up and out on a crane/headgear. Does that sound feasible? Any ideas for how to make this operational?

A few commenters in the Maxilla Method articles seemed to give away the idea that anchorage devices were used in the treatment, so it is most likely something along those lines. I figured CP injured himself by pulling too much or too hard when his previous results hadn't solidified/healed yet. AFIAK, Neymar has no website and none of his supposed clients have said anything about trying his method out. I wouldn't trust him to deliver on either of those.

CP not writing since January can't really be blamed. After all, he's in the same boat as most everyone else and doesn't have all the answers, plus there's only so much to say about craniofacial dystrophy. He's still around to approve comments from somebody plugging their own guide for $39, which is kind of amusing.
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: April 29, 2017, 11:40:15 pm »

I'd hold off and check out what removable palette retainers that might offer a similar benefit sams the surgery. Check it that video from the CP post in January to see adult results.
Posted by: reenochrobinson
« on: April 29, 2017, 08:11:08 pm »

From what I can tell, CP hasn't written a new post since January, and Neymarjr10 hasn't made any comments on the site since July of last year. I think it's now fair to surmise that Neymar's technique isn't the panacea he claimed, but I'm still curious about it. With all of the talk of preliminary minor surgical procedures, my best guess is that he combined temporary skeletal anchorage devices (TSADs) with extra oral traction (basically facepulling from micro-screws directly in the maxilla). Perhaps CP had one of his TSADs come loose from pulling too aggressively and that's why he would have required another surgery to continue. Since Neymar supposedly enrolled others to try his method, I wonder what changes they have achieved or if they also encountered problems.

Do you think my theory makes sense? I am envisioning securing a few micro-scews into the arch of the maxilla behind the lips, somehow affixing a removable facebow, and then using elastics to pull up and out on a crane/headgear. Does that sound feasible? Any ideas for how to make this operational?
Posted by: Michael Scott
« on: March 11, 2017, 03:28:46 am »

https://reversedental.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Improvement
« on: July 28, 2016, 04:28:11 pm »

Or maybe he made a great move

Who knows... after three months he can come again and say "after fixing my mistake, Maxilla method saved my life, totally worth those 10k$."

I don't have anything against him; I'm very grateful for what he has done. He did help a lot of people who are taking a lot more care of themselves. He was very brave in taking reins on the issue putting himself to the hard work of research and experimentation to deliver information that is worth gold.

But that neymarjr situation gives a lot to think

in any case, that is none of my business so I don't even know why I'm giving my word, lol
Posted by: reenochrobinson
« on: July 28, 2016, 03:43:43 pm »

Quote from: Improvement on July 14, 2016, 02:54:11 pm
Hello, everyone!

It's true that Neymar's method sounds fantastic and highly promising, but I've started to think that it's a huge rip-off from claimingpower

Why? Because he deletes ALL adverse comments towards the method. When he posted the last article on his blog, the people were discussing it and a good talk began to build up. They were blaming "Neymar" for being so ambitious and trying to figure what's the method. Anyways, after one day he got rid of them and started to restrict comments.

He must be earning from "Neymar" method OR Neymar doesn't exist, and he is just trying to squeeze what is left of his blog to the MAX

There are no more articles after that... I wonder why... It seems like the only thing that could save the earth is the maxilla method  ::)

CP has a new post and he give an update about his experience with Neymar's technique:

"I... felt I was seeing results but I went bit too aggressive with that and now I need another minor correction surgery if I want to continue and I’ve just put it off as he is currently doing a lot of research and If I was to try again, I want that to be the very last surgery I try."

In the comments section, Neymar writes:

"he frankly abused the method and created problems for himself."

So for now, CP says he's going to wait until Neymar has refined his technique. In the interim, he is trying the belt face pulling Gucci posted about above, and focusing on mewing, chewing, and head posture. This development seems to give a little more credibility that CP wasn't just shilling for Neymar.
Posted by: sophiea13
« on: July 15, 2016, 07:28:03 am »

@guccigang the  before after picture of the 2nd guy -> wow!! the change looks really good in my opinion.
Posted by: Gucci Gang
« on: July 14, 2016, 10:36:00 pm »

Quote from: Improvement on July 14, 2016, 02:54:11 pm
Hello, everyone!

It's true that Neymar's method sounds fantastic and highly promising, but I've started to think that it's a huge rip-off from claimingpower

Why? Because he deletes ALL adverse comments towards the method. When he posted the last article on his blog, the people were discussing it and a good talk began to build up. They were blaming "Neymar" for being so ambitious and trying to figure what's the method. Anyways, after one day he got rid of them and started to restrict comments.

He must be earning from "Neymar" method OR Neymar doesn't exist, and he is just trying to squeeze what is left of his blog to the MAX

There are no more articles after that... I wonder why... It seems like the only thing that could save the earth is the maxilla method  ::)

I think that I'll keep it slow, I'm not in hurry for changes.

Quote from: reenochrobinson on July 14, 2016, 09:44:23 am
envisioning an appliance in two pieces with some kind of springs or compressible substance in between. The top piece would be molded to the pallet and upper teeth. The bottom piece would fit over the tongue and be molded to the bottom teeth. Biting together would exert an upward force on the maxilla, and would develop the masseter muscle like chewing. What do you think of this idea? Do you have any suggestions for how I could put together something like what I’ve described?"
This won't work because you're using the jaw to provide a force which would result in a negative pressure against the jaw, by the springs. causing face lengthening
Lol, no.
Posted by: Gucci Gang
« on: July 14, 2016, 10:34:15 pm »

What the **** is his "Method"???
Nothing.
A **** Scam Artist want $4000 for a generic email with no evidence behind its actually effectiveness.

Check out this thread on an even better method, posters are finding even more and more techniques and information on this.

http://lookism.net/Thread-Looksmax-Belt-facepulling

Few pictures of the people who have done it

Posted by: monarch
« on: July 14, 2016, 03:26:15 pm »

reenochrobinson, interesting post. I made a thread with a similar idea a while back if you want to look at it in my post history.
Posted by: Improvement
« on: July 14, 2016, 02:54:11 pm »

Hello, everyone!

It's true that Neymar's method sounds fantastic and highly promising, but I've started to think that it's a huge rip-off from claimingpower

Why? Because he deletes ALL adverse comments towards the method. When he posted the last article on his blog, the people were discussing it and a good talk began to build up. They were blaming "Neymar" for being so ambitious and trying to figure what's the method. Anyways, after one day he got rid of them and started to restrict comments.

He must be earning from "Neymar" method OR Neymar doesn't exist, and he is just trying to squeeze what is left of his blog to the MAX

There are no more articles after that... I wonder why... It seems like the only thing that could save the earth is the maxilla method  ::)

I think that I'll keep it slow, I'm not in hurry for changes.

Quote from: reenochrobinson on July 14, 2016, 09:44:23 am
envisioning an appliance in two pieces with some kind of springs or compressible substance in between. The top piece would be molded to the pallet and upper teeth. The bottom piece would fit over the tongue and be molded to the bottom teeth. Biting together would exert an upward force on the maxilla, and would develop the masseter muscle like chewing. What do you think of this idea? Do you have any suggestions for how I could put together something like what I’ve described?"
This won't work because you're using the jaw to provide a force which would result in a negative pressure against the jaw, by the springs. causing face lengthening






 
Posted by: sophiea13
« on: July 14, 2016, 11:06:04 am »

Interesting thoughts!!

Me too I am very interested in neymars method but the amout of money he wanted to charge was above anything possible for me...

Apart from that I think mewing and facepulling are both very helpful!