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Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: April 25, 2017, 02:56:26 pm »

I notice my airway breathing is easier, and tongue when the jaw comes forward a little and I keep the chin tuck... I'm going to try this, since Mew isn't into teeth touching during resting posture. This might be a good fit for helping little adjustments - and my headaches!
Posted by: Progress
« on: April 24, 2017, 04:46:10 am »

Quote from: Skull on April 23, 2017, 05:55:25 pm
When you do a Mckenzie Chin tuck you're not actually retracting your mandible (IN RELATION TO THE UPPER JAW / and joint socket). Yes, in relation to your neck, it APPEARS to be retracted but it's not actually jamming the mandible further into the joint because the whole skull is being rotated as a unit. It would leave you with less tongue space and cause it to push against the maxilla but we consider that a desirable force. Also it doesn't appear that the author of that article disagrees with Mew as he endorses him many times. I can retract or protract my mandible in both tucked head posture and forward head posture.

I agree. Despite being called chin tuck, you don't actually do anything with your mandible. If anything, exaggerated chin tuck causes the neck to push the mandible towards the maxilla, instead of retracting it in relation to the skull. However, chin protraction as an exercise can offer temporary help to TMD symptoms.

The reason mandibular protraction seems to help your postural balance so much is because that indeed brings the mandible closer to the position in which its meant to be. Likewise, chin tucking while keeping the jaws aligned feels uncomfortable because, well, it is an uncomfortable position when you have a recessed structure.

This does not disprove the importance of chin tucking / correct head posture, but simply tells that your structure is recessed. Which you probably already knew. Whether you keep your mandible protracted or aligned with your upper jaw, the problem does not change: you have to get the maxilla forward.
Posted by: Skull
« on: April 23, 2017, 05:55:25 pm »

When you do a Mckenzie Chin tuck you're not actually retracting your mandible (IN RELATION TO THE UPPER JAW / and joint socket). Yes, in relation to your neck, it APPEARS to be retracted but it's not actually jamming the mandible further into the joint because the whole skull is being rotated as a unit. It would leave you with less tongue space and cause it to push against the maxilla but we consider that a desirable force. Also it doesn't appear that the author of that article disagrees with Mew as he endorses him many times. I can retract or protract my mandible in both tucked head posture and forward head posture.
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: April 23, 2017, 04:04:19 pm »

Check out this excellent article on TMJD. I recommend skipping past most of the article and going straight for the section titled "CORRECTIVES".

https://treningogrehab.no/true-cause-solution-temporomandibular-dysfunction-tmd/

(TLDR: Protract (bring forward) the mandible, and acctivate the pterygoid muscles (jaw muscle along the ramus area).

I started implementing the techniques on this website about two months ago. However, I was doing it incorrectly because I was activating the suprahyoid muscles, rather than the pterygoid muscles, which still gave me benefits because I was practicing mandubular protraction, but it was suboptimal. About 2-3 weeks ago I started doing what I now believe is the technique recommended in this article, and have seen undeniable improvements in my face, and more importantly in my breathing and neck posture.

Piort to this, I was practicing Mew's "Chin Tuck", but I now believe Mike Mew was completely backasswards in his recommending of this. As the article explains, mandibular retraction is BAD, and I believe that when we are chin tucking we are practicing mandibular retraction, which is causing our face to be worse. If we were to constantly chin tuck, we'd end up with a shitty lower jaw that would be constantly lodged up in our airway!! Not good for aesthetics, and not good for breathing either.

When I was chin tucking it always felt really unnatural and forced for me, but with mandibular protraction, my neck, spine, and everything else seems to naturally be coming into allignment.

I hope this makes sense to you guys, and if you feel it does, read and study the article and give it a try for a few months. Hopefully it helps you out. As far as my progress, I feel that I still have a long way to go, but I think this technique has helped bring me along further and has helped clear up some inconsistencies and gaps I found with Mew's theories.