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Posted by: dadfa
« on: June 03, 2017, 12:25:53 am »

I know this was discussed before, unfortunately I cannot find the post, but does anyone know how to convince an orthodontist to oversee your mandible and maxilla expansion efforts?
Posted by: Cat
« on: June 02, 2017, 02:28:42 am »

Quote from: Michael on April 26, 2017, 12:37:34 am
I can't find any recorded evidence of ADULT palate expansion in a person over 22y with only a plate. By expansion I mean opening the fissure. You can get MARPE and SARPE but ultimately it seems over 25y you need SARPE, which involves surgery to cut the hard palate. Do your research.
https://reversedental.wordpress.com/

MARPE has been shown to work with 54 22 and 16 years old patients, there is no need for SARPE.
This girl had MARPE she is 24 and it workd very well http://smileofsteel.weebly.com/.  I am wondring what happens if one does MARPE with a semi rapid rate... How much the maxilla will come forward?
Btw Won Moon is a genius haha
Posted by: MeltedFace
« on: April 26, 2017, 08:33:05 am »

Quote from: Michael on April 26, 2017, 12:37:34 am
I can't find any recorded evidence of ADULT palate expansion in a person over 22y with only a plate. By expansion I mean opening the fissure. You can get MARPE and SARPE but ultimately it seems over 25y you need SARPE, which involves surgery to cut the hard palate. Do your research.
https://reversedental.wordpress.com/

If you watch Mike Mews videos on this topic, he says it is done frequently by him with adults... it just needs someone who knows the process and is outside of traditional methods.
Posted by: Michael
« on: April 26, 2017, 12:37:34 am »

I can't find any recorded evidence of ADULT palate expansion in a person over 22y with only a plate. By expansion I mean opening the fissure. You can get MARPE and SARPE but ultimately it seems over 25y you need SARPE, which involves surgery to cut the hard palate. Do your research.
https://reversedental.wordpress.com/
Posted by: Cat
« on: April 17, 2017, 07:59:57 am »

I want more tongue space and this way even if it is expanding it is so damn slow...  :D
Posted by: TheNo0n3
« on: April 17, 2017, 05:35:12 am »

I have a feeling a offended you by saying it is a theft and I apologise, I really have no idea what exactly they want to do so it would cost that much, but hey, they might have.

Sooooooooo, if things are getting better, why dont you just continue doing it instead of going for procedures?
Posted by: Cat
« on: April 17, 2017, 04:52:47 am »

Quote from: TheNo0n3 on April 16, 2017, 04:25:58 pm
Quote from: Cat on April 16, 2017, 02:54:33 pm
Yea i think they are both palate expanders. The frist removeable the second bonded or something else. Someone actually used the first one with the pulling mask.  I know that the bonded one is more effective but not an expert on that  ::) .
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15038493 this study proves the effectiveness in young adults but here as stated they did not use the Mew method of 1 mm per week + chewing hard gums. I want really hear about someone that did it at home.
Btw I have found out that some people actually bought it here: http://www.bracesshop.de.
The thing is I do not trust much and do not want to be scammed.
I hope someone who has bought and that was helpful, write soon.
Your orthodontists should offer that type, the removeable one, at least that is what they show in that website. They are pretty common practice, in my country at least almost everyone has worn them, but at pretty young age, like 10 or younger, I got mines late tho, like 14 and 3-4 years later got annoyed by them and the slow results and left them, although now that I have educated myself on things, I plan to go to orthodontist so they can fix them, so I can wear them again.


About the hard gum chewing, I might be wrong and probably am, but I have no recollection of Mew saying that hard gum should be chewed, now he did say that u know, all those maxilla related problems are cause by soft food, weak facial muscles and he had a video where he chewed a ball of gums, but  I more of think that buying and chewing hard gum was something thought of in a forum. Well I dislocated my jaw on the second day from 40 minutes of not that hard gum chewing(falim gum-which really wasnt that hard), I have no idea how and what happened, but I am suffering the consequenses atm, can barely open my mouth, like 1-2 cm, it just wont open more and doesnt seem to get any better, although the doctor said, that all should be okay and I eat only soft food. What I mean is, dont overdo it, its no secret that big forces wear out a joint.

Yeah, the bonded is more effective, no lie, my question was which one they offer you, because for me 1000 euro seems like a theft, not that I know the prices, but I am pretty sure it aint made from silver

The story goes like this: Frist ortho(the thief) suggested RPE 1000 euro + cost of the treatment plan 1200 per month. The second one suggested that it can only be solved by surgery. I have a very slight underbite, nothing rally impressive. Frist i was thing about having th surgery beacuz my face was rally messed up.
But i think it can be solved without surgery like with the mew vector headgear, but for that i have to fly to uk(not a big cost) stay there(big cost) and pay mew(big cost i think).
Why am I so sure of this? Because since 7+ months i have done the "mewing"(keeping a good posture of the body and the tongue + eating hard foods like carrots or others and avoiding soft foods possibily) and my underbite has improved. I am 21/22 and
I'm really fascinated by this thing. My face really changed but still need an expansion.

 
Posted by: TheNo0n3
« on: April 16, 2017, 04:25:58 pm »

Quote from: Cat on April 16, 2017, 02:54:33 pm
Yea i think they are both palate expanders. The frist removeable the second bonded or something else. Someone actually used the first one with the pulling mask.  I know that the bonded one is more effective but not an expert on that  ::) .
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15038493 this study proves the effectiveness in young adults but here as stated they did not use the Mew method of 1 mm per week + chewing hard gums. I want really hear about someone that did it at home.
Btw I have found out that some people actually bought it here: http://www.bracesshop.de.
The thing is I do not trust much and do not want to be scammed.
I hope someone who has bought and that was helpful, write soon.
Your orthodontists should offer that type, the removeable one, at least that is what they show in that website. They are pretty common practice, in my country at least almost everyone has worn them, but at pretty young age, like 10 or younger, I got mines late tho, like 14 and 3-4 years later got annoyed by them and the slow results and left them, although now that I have educated myself on things, I plan to go to orthodontist so they can fix them, so I can wear them again.


About the hard gum chewing, I might be wrong and probably am, but I have no recollection of Mew saying that hard gum should be chewed, now he did say that u know, all those maxilla related problems are cause by soft food, weak facial muscles and he had a video where he chewed a ball of gums, but  I more of think that buying and chewing hard gum was something thought of in a forum. Well I dislocated my jaw on the second day from 40 minutes of not that hard gum chewing(falim gum-which really wasnt that hard), I have no idea how and what happened, but I am suffering the consequenses atm, can barely open my mouth, like 1-2 cm, it just wont open more and doesnt seem to get any better, although the doctor said, that all should be okay and I eat only soft food. What I mean is, dont overdo it, its no secret that big forces wear out a joint.

Yeah, the bonded is more effective, no lie, my question was which one they offer you, because for me 1000 euro seems like a theft, not that I know the prices, but I am pretty sure it aint made from silver
Posted by: Cat
« on: April 16, 2017, 02:54:33 pm »

Yea i think they are both palate expanders. The frist removeable the second bonded or something else. Someone actually used the first one with the pulling mask.  I know that the bonded one is more effective but not an expert on that  ::) .
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15038493 this study proves the effectiveness in young adults but here as stated they did not use the Mew method of 1 mm per week + chewing hard gums. I want really hear about someone that did it at home.
Btw I have found out that some people actually bought it here: http://www.bracesshop.de.
The thing is I do not trust much and do not want to be scammed.
I hope someone who has bought and that was helpful, write soon.
Posted by: TheNo0n3
« on: April 16, 2017, 07:28:45 am »

In the last few days I am a bit confused about how a palate expander looks like. Is it a removable one? Does it look like this

or like this
Posted by: Cat
« on: April 15, 2017, 01:13:54 pm »

Hello everyone I am from Italy and I am interested in buying an online palate expander, I have the dental cast to send to the lab. The dentist said me that it will cost 1000 euro here locally(only the expander) ::)
The objective is to do a semi-rapid palate expansion as doc mew said 1 mm by week + hard chewing. I need something like 6 to 8 mm of expansion.
It would be great an expander with attachments for forward and upward pulling. Can't afford to go to the uk and visit mew he would cost too much  :-\
Other's experience is welcome, sorry for bad English:)