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Posted by: Ryan
« on: October 28, 2016, 01:04:22 am »

- How is your bite? no overbite or under bite right?
- If i remember well you had pretty good jaw area right?
- do you have a picture from your face from the front or half front?
Posted by: Ryan
« on: October 21, 2016, 02:56:03 am »

"Selina93: So if I have flat zygoma but not receding chin what should I do? "

well i do not know how your maxilla is rotated

basically from what you describe there are a few possibilities:

- Basically your maxilla as a whole can be neutrally rotated (good) but the maxilla is a whole is recessed: Then you need to get the maxilla as a whole up and forward. This means both you should pull up every molar-area evenly. So for example, use a belt and first bite between the last molars, push up AND FORWARD ...Then bite between the middel molars, push up (not forward) , bite between the first molars, push up (not forward)
You will only want to use the last molars to push the whole thing forward, because then the force from the last molar, pushes all teeth as a whole forward. If you bite on the front molars, and push them forward, I am not sure what will happen. (it might be totally ok, but i'm not sure about that)

- The other option is that your maxilla is rotated, in such a way that the lower part of the maxilla is more forward than the upper part. In that case you would only want to use the last molars to get the back of your maxilla up and forward with the belt  (and pressing). If the back of your maxilla gets up and forward, ot should rotate the maxilla in such a way that it improves your eye region.

Whether which one is the case, is dependant on the look of your face. Do you have wide jaws, do you have a prominent chin, do you have strong cheekbones, do you have a bump in your nose..etc?



Posted by: brownpanther
« on: October 16, 2016, 10:05:07 pm »

Could you paste the link to the other forum here? I think a lot of people, including myself would love to read it. It would be very helpful.
Thanks.
Posted by: Ryan
« on: October 16, 2016, 07:20:34 am »

Thanks to DonJohns from another forum, I found out a while ago that the *LOCATION* of the palate that is pressed on or pulled,  determines the part of your face that is improved. Basically the frontpart (near mouth) area of your palate is related with the LOWER side of your face (chin etc) , while the deeper side of the palate (near throat) is related to the upperside of your face (eyes etc).

Basically this means that it depends on your current face shape which part you should work on most. I have somewhat of a recessed chin (so lower side of the face) which means I should focus more on pushing up right behind my frontal upperteeth. Now for a few weeks apart from using the belt to pull my back molars up and forward, I now also do a seperate pull where I locate the belt on my first molars (first teeth you chew with) and pull upwards with it a few times using heavy force. After that I put my thumb in my mouth and push up (right behind front teeth) and hear alot of cracking sounds. I've noticed that my chin seems to have improved from it.

The thing is that with the regular belt method, you only use the back molars, which does not help you to get the front part of your palate upwards. IF you keep on improving your upper part of your face using the molars far back, but forget the ones in the front, you are actually reducing making your lower side appear worse. If the whole face is more forward, but the lower area of your face (jaw) is not, then your underside looks more recessed (and relatively speaking, it is)

 If your chin is somewhat recessed (and alot of people have that these days) , the most results you will get is with pushing the frontal part of the palate part also. (or pulling upwards with belt facepulling)

I have had alot of facial improvements from facepulling with either hockeymask or the belt before, but it did not help much with the chin area. This is the first time I'm noticing these parts improving somewhat.

I *must* say though that although I may should have worked on improving the lower side earlier, the overal improvements of the face still by far are a clear improvement.
So one should not be scared to try facepulling because this might happen. Every piece you bring forward, basically is an improvement. It just means you should also work on the other parts too.

If anyone has any information or thoughts about this subject, it would be cool to discuss them here...We should work together on putting all the pieces together, since I do not think anyone else will do this

Greets,

Ryan