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Posted by: Improvement
« on: March 29, 2016, 07:26:24 pm »

Hey, AestheticMaxilla! How r you doing? Hope you're still around !

I received my #64 rubber bands yesterday and wanted to share my experience with you, hope to be of some help

I've only pulled once with those rubber bands but as soon as I saw them I knew that they would work fine. They're thick enough to apply a decent amount of force without the fear of getting slapped (something I couldn't do with my past bands) you can actually play with them until you find your appropriate pull force.

With this bands I could feel even more pressure than before, I felt it very satisfying, in fact, I felt really excited because of those new sensations, also because things were working as I was expecting. After I finished facepulling my breathing was feeling so much better and I was so **** happy that I had to make time to write this **** down. Seems like I finally got it right after 5 months of pulling wrong  :'(

I bought this bands http://www.amazon.com/Alliance-Advantage-Rubber-Band-Inches/dp/B008X09P96?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01

Maybe you could find something better, I bought those because they were the cheapest and they resulted excellent. Anyways, keep us updated on your progress

See ya!
Posted by: AestheticMaxilla
« on: March 18, 2016, 11:48:41 pm »

Ok, so I can actually feel a good pull on the palate now. I don't think I was pulling hard enough. It actually feels good. But one problem, the paper clips and rubber bands start giving away before I can get an adequate pull force. I am using size #32, I am going through them quick. I use it only once because I can see the bands ripping up and don't want to risk it snapping in my eye.
Posted by: Ryan
« on: March 10, 2016, 12:44:47 am »

I'm using a custom retainer and a bike helmet (own design) ..which really works well for me . I'm getting visible results in weeks. I believe that pulling the mandible UP MORE works better than than pulling UP AND FORWARD EVENLY .I read on older posts by other people that it didn't work if the didn't pull enough upwards...so i figured that possibly it was mostly the force upwards that did the trick. This would also make sense in the way that both your bite and your tongue on roof are also forces that go UP more than forwards.  So based on that idea I made mine design so that its mostly pulling up, and a bit forward...but like  2/3 up...1/3 forward.... (maybe even 3/4 up, 1/4 forward). I'm not sure of cause, but it might be why i'm getting results pretty soon. You guys could try that and see if it works better. I'm speaking about the angle the elastics is pulling . I attached 4 elastics to all 4 attachment points of my custom made retainer..and the direction of the elastics is like 70% upwards, 30% forward (the numbers are all guesses since i did not measure that exactly  (yet))
I've even tried pulling up so much that red marks appear on my face, because the elastics go up so much they touch my forehead. I'm not sure yet whether pulling up so much in comparison to pulling a little more forward is the best of the 2, but with both methods I see a difference in my facial appearance after I just did the face pulling. After that it always seems to revert a bit back where the progress stabilizes.
Posted by: Improvement
« on: March 08, 2016, 12:50:44 am »

I see... seems like people using a retainer are getting unsatisfactory results or may struggle in the process.

You pointed two important factors, Tongue push and Relaxation state. While facepulling you should arrange a very deep state of relaxation just like meditating, this is key to identify the feelings on your body. When I'm pulling I may take as long as 15 minutes to completely relax and start to feel the whole pressure on my cheekbones. Sometimes its as fast as 5 minutes, point is that you must relax your whole body and concentrate on your head.

Pushing with the tongue can make a difference too, but I found it really annoying for the neck while facepulling, after 5-10 minutes of hard pushing I couldn't handle the discomfort and had to stop, so I decided to push with a reasonable amount of force. You can also push with your tongue the whole day and still feel a bit of pressure without the neck pain. Obviously that was my case, if you feel ok doing it, great! :)

The rubber bands you're using are good, give them a try. It's true that you are judging too fast, I used to do it as well, at first I felt kind of cheated and wanted to stop... but I said whatever, it's just 30min a day lets stick to it.

Eventually you'll get it right and notice changes, take your first month as a learning phase of what works for you
Posted by: AestheticMaxilla
« on: March 07, 2016, 11:51:20 pm »

Quote from: Improvement on March 07, 2016, 11:33:59 pm
Hey buddy!, if you are not feeling anything at all while facepulling you should check your tools.

Also, as ryan said above, changes are really difficult to see in pictures.

I've been facepulling for 5 months now, when I started I wasn't feeling anything, just like you, I thought that it was normal because a few guys here and there said that they weren't feeling anything as well, so I kept pulling it that way for almost 2 months. Nevertheless I was getting changes, really slight changes but hey it was at least working! I didn't lose my time and money buying that hockey mask! :).

But, one day. The day that changed my life... That day my rubber bands broke and slapped me on the face. Damn dude I was using very thin bands, they also get streched over time and apply even less pressure, so well I bought new bands with more thick! and hell!! I began to feel the **** pressure that people talks about! and a bit of relief ( Just a bit, it's not something powerful like Plato said ) or maybe it is but I dont feel it yet. NCR may make a difference

So that's why I ask

Are you using a hockey mask? or which method are you using?

Using proper rubber bands? We should assign a # of rubber band that could work fine with everyone. The ones im using are still thin, I tried with really thick bands and they pulled my braces out, lol... I dont know which # of rubber band im using right now and cant get to identify the # that plato used. I will buy #64 and try those, I think that something between #27-#32 should work fine, as you see i'm still trying to get it right after 5 months, I hope to be a help and make it even faster for everyone else

Good clips? Weak clips get expanded with ease

Are you pulling with braces? I got braces put on so I dont really know about pulling with an appliance, in my opinion it could work less

Remember to don't exaggerate on pulling force, it may lead to damage. Hear your own body. 

I will update my results after I try several # of rubbers bands, sorry if I'm not being fully understandable, English is not my native language. You can ask me anything if you like

Yes, the method I am using is the hockey mask (same exact bolts and helmet Plato used). I do not have braces, but have a custom retainer with hooks behind the eye teeth. I am using a size #32 rubberband attached to paperclips. Since I wasn't feeling anything I doubled up on rubber bands on each side, might be bad move. At first I was clenching my jaw when doing it, but realized it resists most of the force/ So I just let my mandible hang now. After my 3rd day doing it, all of a sudden I understand how much pressure the tongue can really put on the maxilla. I honestly thought all the people on the forum talking about tongue posture were exaggerating a ton. Today, I pushed hard with my tongue on my maxilla, which for some reason couldn't do. Felt decent pressure on the back of neck. I think I am judging face pulling to quick, I will update in a couple weeks or something like that.
Posted by: Improvement
« on: March 07, 2016, 11:33:59 pm »

Hey buddy!, if you are not feeling anything at all while facepulling you should check your tools.

Also, as ryan said above, changes are really difficult to see in pictures.

I've been facepulling for 5 months now, when I started I wasn't feeling anything, just like you, I thought that it was normal because a few guys here and there said that they weren't feeling anything as well, so I kept pulling it that way for almost 2 months. Nevertheless I was getting changes, really slight changes but hey it was at least working! I didn't lose my time and money buying that hockey mask! :).

But, one day. The day that changed my life... That day my rubber bands broke and slapped me on the face. Damn dude I was using very thin bands, they also get streched over time and apply even less pressure, so well I bought new bands with more thick! and hell!! I began to feel the **** pressure that people talks about! and a bit of relief ( Just a bit, it's not something powerful like Plato said ) or maybe it is but I dont feel it yet. NCR may make a difference

So that's why I ask

Are you using a hockey mask? or which method are you using?

Using proper rubber bands? We should assign a # of rubber band that could work fine with everyone. The ones im using are still thin, I tried with really thick bands and they pulled my braces out, lol... I dont know which # of rubber band im using right now and cant get to identify the # that plato used. I will buy #64 and try those, I think that something between #27-#32 should work fine, as you see i'm still trying to get it right after 5 months, I hope to be a help and make it even faster for everyone else

Good clips? Weak clips get expanded with ease

Are you pulling with braces? I got braces put on so I dont really know about pulling with an appliance, in my opinion it could work less

Remember to don't exaggerate on pulling force, it may lead to damage. Hear your own body. 

I will update my results after I try several # of rubbers bands, sorry if I'm not being fully understandable, English is not my native language. You can ask me anything if you like
Posted by: Ryan
« on: March 06, 2016, 02:46:01 pm »

I think can be  pretty hard to see differences on pictures, as you would see them in real life (or video?). I tried to send my sister a picture of my face pulling results after a few weeks of doing it, but couldn't find an angle to really display the differences best, but when she saw me in real life, she saw the differences immediately. Indeed you would have to take such identical pics , over a long period of face pulling, to see differences best. It helps too if you see pictures of people's before and afters, to keep looking at them. The more often i've seen the same before and after pictures of people on this site, and became familiar with their faces, the easier I could spot the differences. The better you know something, the easier it is to see a difference. You would see a small change in your sweater much easier than to see a sudden difference that appeared on a sweater of your friend, simply because you were only familiar with your friends sweater on a basic level (and not detailed level). if you want to see clear differences, check out ' transformers 2 year progress ' (older topic) to see how much wider his face has become, and check out Tylers pictures and look at his eyebrow shape changes. These are 2 very easy to spot differences. I see the differences on most pictures I've seen. (except a certain blonde girl with long hair - her pictures were too different in angle and make up, in the before and after)
Posted by: AestheticMaxilla
« on: March 06, 2016, 11:14:32 am »

Hey guys, I have been browsing this forum and have seen some before and afters. Truthfully, I can't see much of a difference besides the lighting changes and haircuts. Can we get a before and after keeping all other variables constant? Day 2 of face pulling right now