Break the Matrix

Bro you look creepy as hell in the new pictures. you had more of a bro look before im kinda straying away from trying this now

What do you guys think of doing Walrus' facepulling method with a Myobrace Trainer? I have an A3 Trainer.

Hi ppl! I want to try facepulling but I have dental crowns of upper infront teeth. Is there anyway not to break dental crowns by pulling? I really wanna try this method. Good idea with mouthgourd.   

The 'belt' method does work slightly if the forces are pulled up and outwards as opposed to just up, all a headgear does is just that, pulls slightly upwards and outwards which is how u pull on the belt ie upwards and pull outwards away from your face, this does work so much better with NCR either by a practitioner or yourself if you know what your doing and what to feel for etc, reason being as the cranial plates are more susceptible to being moved and shifted, note your cheekbones will shift along with your entire skull from NCR alone and mewing because upwards and outwards is where your maxilla ideally needs to be for optimal air intake and NCR helps correct that position regardless of facepulling.

UPDATE: Face pulling and belt method
Ive spoken to a few people recently including a young fellow who has had negative experiences with belt pulling. When your biting down and pulling from the rear molars or wisdom teeth (if you do still have them). The force applied would compress your maxilla only from the rear which would swing the lower jaw upwards at the back not the front! Essentially this is making the gonial angle worse and actually rotates your lower jaw in a more unfavourable position making your lower third shorter. It would increase your jaw angle not shorten it. This maybe ok if your a woman but not so good if your a man. your lower jaw will 100% become narrower. Ever since I have done this ive noticed my orbitals have sunk and have been repressed. Again this is caused by upward force at the back of the maxilla it makes complete logical sense as to why it compresses your cheekbone area. I found this site though my own vanity and became set to improve my facial appearance despite being normal except for a slightly long midface, weak chin and mild crowding of teeth. I guess I paid the price and I fully deserve it. Would welcome any others opinions, experiences and advice on the matter. Im now looking into NCR to reverse the damage.

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of using the belt to pull. I feel it puts too much pressure on too few teeth. If you are going to use a belt though, I recommend biting down on the back bicuspid and FRONT molar, rather than the back molar (I heard Dr. Belfor, of homeoblock, explicitly recommend this in an interview). Our back molar isn't really designed for chewing on food, its function is somewhat similar to wisdom teeth in that they help take space in the jaw, not chew on food.

Personally, I've experienced teeth pain from using the belt method. Betterbytheday's theory kind of makes sense, and just to be cautious, it probably would be a good idea to spend some time biting down with some of the more anterior teeth to get a better balance.

FWIW, I think I've had the best experience using the mouthpiece method and second to that the towel.

NCR has provided the most benefits I believe, but I think the benefits are diminishing.

PICS
This is after 1month. And again a guy I spoken to has seen the exact same changes as me. Shorter narrower lower third and more bloated midface.

Couldn't upload as attachments so:

Before
http://imgur.com/a/P86TP

After
http://imgur.com/a/WKMyR

I have taken many pics from many different angles and I cannot recreate the angularity in the first pic. In every pic I honestly just look worse. When Belt pulling upwards at the rear molars you'll hear cracks or clicks as in the teeth are compressing into the upper jaw this is the joints being compressed. During this time I was chewing falim gum so in essence my jaw should be wider  Now I look back chewing along with upwards force at the rear molars is just making the compression stronger. My cheekbones have become repressed making my eyes look gormless. Again the most depressing thing for me is I look worse and feel worse (my jaw just feels like its in my throat, feel slighty tired and light headed all the time). I just know my jaw has got longer and further down and back. And I have symptoms of my upper jaw being further back but I cant understand logically how why it is but I just know it is.

I feel I need to come here to release my frustration, family and friends think i'm obviously insane. I mean who IRL gives a **** if there cheekbones are receded slightly and the face and jaw has become longer. But to someone like me who was already insecure it really is a kick in the balls. I would be content If I got my old face back.

And I dont know how you guys cope with this. I think I'm honestly mental I just had a reality check and just thought to myself wtf am I doing. Researching hours on these forums, biting into belts and cutting my fingers trying to put shoelaces through mouth-gaurds, obsessed with looking in the mirror constantly to see if my jaw angle has changed, buying tonnes of turkish chewing gum and chewing hard foods. Thinking people are constantly judging me on my facial structure. **** it go and live your life stop obsessing over this you Just cant win, you'll just destroy yourself physically and mentally.

Its not worth messing with if your normal