Author Topic: The Maxilla Method (Read 8345 times)

Mothaofdragons · « **on:** May 19, 2016, 09:52:29 am »

I've been reading about a new method nicknamed the Maxilla Method on claimingpower.com which is meant to produce the quickest and best results. Does anyone know anything thing about it?

Improvement · « **Reply #1 on:** May 20, 2016, 07:47:02 pm »

Yea.

You have to use your palate to anchor the forces, not your teeth; pulling forward and upwards

The interesting thing about this method is that first you have to be treated surgically ( A non-invasive intraoral surgery ) I don't know what exactly is done in that surgery. Maybe you could investigate that and help us out.

which is A surgery that could ease movement of the maxilla (?)

Gucci Gang · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2016, 12:02:02 am »

Mewing, by having correct oral, tounge, and Neck Posture, and Strongly Pushing Up and Forward with Your Entire Tounge on the Roof of the Mouth/ Palate is good too, and can be most of the day. The tounge is the Strongest Muscle, and probably the best anchor, as well as a light force throughout the day.

Probably the best thing and most important thing to do, along with Face Pulling, and Neuro-Cranial Restructuring.

Neymahr seems like a scam artist, trying to get $4000 for a a Generic Email full of unproven information.

Michael Scott · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2016, 05:47:04 am »

the 'small surgery' could be screws into the hard palate to anchor the pulling force:

https://www.jco-online.com/files/archive/2011/08/433-jco/figures/20011_08-433-09.jpg

reenochrobinson · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2016, 09:44:23 am »

Neymar quoted me $5,000 to participate in his trial group. I asked him if this included the cost for any procedures or supplies. He did not respond.

I tried posting the following in the claimingpower comments a couple times and it has been awaiting moderation for more than a week while later comments have already been posted. My idea probably isn't accurate if, as some have speculated, this "minor surgery" involves placement of "temporary anchorage devices" or small screws into the maxilla. However, I still think there might be something to pushing up on the pallet from inside the mouth rather than pulling from outside the mouth.

"OK, like a lot of you, I’m curious about this new method Neymar has developed. It got me to wondering what other strategies might be possible, and I thought rather than “face pulling” maybe he’s tried “face pushing.” What I mean is rather than pulling on the maxilla from the outside, maybe he’s created something that pushes up on the pallet from inside the mouth, mimicking proper tongue posture but with greater force over a greater time. I’m envisioning an appliance in two pieces with some kind of springs or compressible substance in between. The top piece would be molded to the pallet and upper teeth. The bottom piece would fit over the tongue and be molded to the bottom teeth. Biting together would exert an upward force on the maxilla, and would develop the masseter muscle like chewing. What do you think of this idea? Do you have any suggestions for how I could put together something like what I’ve described?"

sophiea13 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2016, 11:06:04 am »

Interesting thoughts!!

Me too I am very interested in neymars method but the amout of money he wanted to charge was above anything possible for me...

Apart from that I think mewing and facepulling are both very helpful!

Improvement · « **Reply #6 on:** July 14, 2016, 02:54:11 pm »

Hello, everyone!

It's true that Neymar's method sounds fantastic and highly promising, but I've started to think that it's a huge rip-off from claimingpower

Why? Because he deletes ALL adverse comments towards the method. When he posted the last article on his blog, the people were discussing it and a good talk began to build up. They were blaming "Neymar" for being so ambitious and trying to figure what's the method. Anyways, after one day he got rid of them and started to restrict comments.

He must be earning from "Neymar" method OR Neymar doesn't exist, and he is just trying to squeeze what is left of his blog to the MAX

There are no more articles after that... I wonder why... It seems like the only thing that could save the earth is the maxilla method

I think that I'll keep it slow, I'm not in hurry for changes.

Quote from: reenochrobinson on July 14, 2016, 09:44:23 am

envisioning an appliance in two pieces with some kind of springs or compressible substance in between. The top piece would be molded to the pallet and upper teeth. The bottom piece would fit over the tongue and be molded to the bottom teeth. Biting together would exert an upward force on the maxilla, and would develop the masseter muscle like chewing. What do you think of this idea? Do you have any suggestions for how I could put together something like what I’ve described?"

This won't work because you're using the jaw to provide a force which would result in a negative pressure against the jaw, by the springs. causing face lengthening

monarch · « **Reply #7 on:** July 14, 2016, 03:26:15 pm »

reenochrobinson, interesting post. I made a thread with a similar idea a while back if you want to look at it in my post history.

Gucci Gang · « **Reply #8 on:** July 14, 2016, 10:34:15 pm »

What the **** is his "Method"

Nothing.
A **** Scam Artist want $4000 for a generic email with no evidence behind its actually effectiveness.

Check out this thread on an even better method, posters are finding even more and more techniques and information on this.

http://lookism.net/Thread-Looksmax-Belt-facepulling

Few pictures of the people who have done it

Gucci Gang · « **Reply #9 on:** July 14, 2016, 10:36:00 pm »

Quote from: Improvement on July 14, 2016, 02:54:11 pm

Hello, everyone!

It's true that Neymar's method sounds fantastic and highly promising, but I've started to think that it's a huge rip-off from claimingpower

Why? Because he deletes ALL adverse comments towards the method. When he posted the last article on his blog, the people were discussing it and a good talk began to build up. They were blaming "Neymar" for being so ambitious and trying to figure what's the method. Anyways, after one day he got rid of them and started to restrict comments.

He must be earning from "Neymar" method OR Neymar doesn't exist, and he is just trying to squeeze what is left of his blog to the MAX

There are no more articles after that... I wonder why... It seems like the only thing that could save the earth is the maxilla method

I think that I'll keep it slow, I'm not in hurry for changes.

Quote from: reenochrobinson on July 14, 2016, 09:44:23 am
envisioning an appliance in two pieces with some kind of springs or compressible substance in between. The top piece would be molded to the pallet and upper teeth. The bottom piece would fit over the tongue and be molded to the bottom teeth. Biting together would exert an upward force on the maxilla, and would develop the masseter muscle like chewing. What do you think of this idea? Do you have any suggestions for how I could put together something like what I’ve described?"
This won't work because you're using the jaw to provide a force which would result in a negative pressure against the jaw, by the springs. causing face lengthening

Lol, no.

sophiea13 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 15, 2016, 07:28:03 am »

@guccigang the before after picture of the 2nd guy -> wow!! the change looks really good in my opinion.

reenochrobinson · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2016, 03:43:43 pm »

Quote from: Improvement on July 14, 2016, 02:54:11 pm

Hello, everyone!

It's true that Neymar's method sounds fantastic and highly promising, but I've started to think that it's a huge rip-off from claimingpower

Why? Because he deletes ALL adverse comments towards the method. When he posted the last article on his blog, the people were discussing it and a good talk began to build up. They were blaming "Neymar" for being so ambitious and trying to figure what's the method. Anyways, after one day he got rid of them and started to restrict comments.

He must be earning from "Neymar" method OR Neymar doesn't exist, and he is just trying to squeeze what is left of his blog to the MAX

There are no more articles after that... I wonder why... It seems like the only thing that could save the earth is the maxilla method

CP has a new post and he give an update about his experience with Neymar's technique:

"I... felt I was seeing results but I went bit too aggressive with that and now I need another minor correction surgery if I want to continue and I’ve just put it off as he is currently doing a lot of research and If I was to try again, I want that to be the very last surgery I try."

In the comments section, Neymar writes:

"he frankly abused the method and created problems for himself."

So for now, CP says he's going to wait until Neymar has refined his technique. In the interim, he is trying the belt face pulling Gucci posted about above, and focusing on mewing, chewing, and head posture. This development seems to give a little more credibility that CP wasn't just shilling for Neymar.

Improvement · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2016, 04:28:11 pm »

Or maybe he made a great move

Who knows... after three months he can come again and say "after fixing my mistake, Maxilla method saved my life, totally worth those 10k$."

I don't have anything against him; I'm very grateful for what he has done. He did help a lot of people who are taking a lot more care of themselves. He was very brave in taking reins on the issue putting himself to the hard work of research and experimentation to deliver information that is worth gold.

But that neymarjr situation gives a lot to think

in any case, that is none of my business so I don't even know why I'm giving my word, lol

Michael Scott · « **Reply #13 on:** March 11, 2017, 03:28:46 am »

https://reversedental.wordpress.com/

reenochrobinson · « **Reply #14 on:** April 29, 2017, 08:11:08 pm »

From what I can tell, CP hasn't written a new post since January, and Neymarjr10 hasn't made any comments on the site since July of last year. I think it's now fair to surmise that Neymar's technique isn't the panacea he claimed, but I'm still curious about it. With all of the talk of preliminary minor surgical procedures, my best guess is that he combined temporary skeletal anchorage devices (TSADs) with extra oral traction (basically facepulling from micro-screws directly in the maxilla). Perhaps CP had one of his TSADs come loose from pulling too aggressively and that's why he would have required another surgery to continue. Since Neymar supposedly enrolled others to try his method, I wonder what changes they have achieved or if they also encountered problems.

Do you think my theory makes sense? I am envisioning securing a few micro-scews into the arch of the maxilla behind the lips, somehow affixing a removable facebow, and then using elastics to pull up and out on a crane/headgear. Does that sound feasible? Any ideas for how to make this operational?

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