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angelo22

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On scoliosis
« on: May 03, 2017, 06:21:49 am »
Hi, I'd like to hear some experiences from people who have this condition, like I do.
It's not hard to find literature that links scoliosis and malocclusion / head posture, and the concept is very easy...

Talking about so-called idiopathic scoliosis here! Not the one caused by genetic defects.

Personally, I have a mild S-shaped scoliosis and as I was growing up I was constantly told "it's not a big deal, if it does not get worse".
Now I'm 21 and it did not get worse (I am lucky to have been visited by a friend of my dad who is an expert) but I really hate how after a long day of walking I'll have lower back pain, a fatigued right side of the trapezoid muscle and my right shoulder tends to be a little higher than the left one.

Alot of people have it way worse than I do however, since this condition doesn't really affect my life in such a bad way, and it's not really visible even when I'm naked unless you're really looking for it (when you bend down you can see that one side is slight higher than the other).

Also, I have a grade 2 (mild, unlikely to worsen) varicocele, which I believe is caused by the "Nutcracker effect" = a compression of a vein that then branches into the spermatic vein, causing blood reflux and varix.

I can't be certain, but since my spine does curve to the left in the lumbar region, I think that's why I have it.
That is also not a grave condition, and I hope you're not thinking I just want to complain or I'm scavenging for sympathy. I just to give as much info as I can about my experience.


Long story short, my main drive for doing NCR (which I discovered while researching not scoliosis but malocclusion, by myself, being an odontology student) is the hope that I can improve the curve of my spine.
I've also been doing yoga for about... 1 month I think, although I skip it some times due not having alot of time mixed with the occasional laziness.
But it's not a burden at all, after you make some experience you'll start feeling so relaxed and peaceful that you'll really want to do it every day. Try! :)

Hope I can hear from other people about their experiences, and hopefully exchange advice.

Have a good day all :)
« Last Edit: May 03, 2017, 06:24:01 am by angelo22 »

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MeltedFace

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Re: On scoliosis
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2017, 09:29:01 am »
I've slowly become basically disabled from lower back issues. I've been going to doctors for over a year, and no one can diagnose why it's happening - and I've yet to get a lower back MRI due to to insurance but that's a whole other story. Basically I've had no accidents, and I don't fit any boxes in my age group. Not a slipped disc. It's not MS (they allowed a brain MRI), not spondylitis, etc.

I wonder at times if it is related to having what I've got... but is there any way to prove cranial dystrophy can cause this? It's so fringe in even orthodontics that I feel like I wouldn't be taken seriously by anyone... but if you know of it being related to lower back issues I'd love info.

Sorry you are hurting - I don't know exactly how you feel but I know what it's like to not be able to walk more than a block and pay the price of horrid pain for it... hope this thread offers some ideas!

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« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2017, 02:17:37 pm »
I don't want this to sound like "just drop several hundred dollars" if it's not that easy for you to do, but the Gokhale chair helped me a lot with back pain, constant tightness, and severe coccyx/tailbone pain when sitting down. After using various special cushions and spinal aligning devices and getting nowhere, I found that being forced to sit properly in the chair corrected my back and took away a lot of pain, though it does begin to relapse if I take a break from sitting in it. This may not be relevant to you, as scoliosis is different, but the chair is at least worth taking a look at.

I think back problems are linked to CFD, at least I would say that the horrible posture it gave me accelerated my already deteriorating looks. On the other hand, Kurt Cobain had scoliosis from age 13 onward, and his face looked great for another 14 years despite always being slumped over. What gives? Maybe if you have a fully developed maxilla, it's far more difficult for it to go backwards even a little, compared to a face that was never fully supported to begin with.

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« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2017, 02:49:37 pm »
That chair sounds amazing... as a budget option I got a saddle stool on Amazon for $65 and it's the only thing I can sit on - super good for spine and circulation

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2017, 02:46:50 am »
PaperBag: Well the price is a little high for me... but it's interesting. But although a good chair helps relieve back pain, it would not fix the problem, right? I already have a nice chair and it helps me relax and keep proper posture, but to really improve some muscles need to be exercised... talking only for myself now, but I can stay in a good sitting posture on a stool and on the ground, but my hyperlordosis creeps back when I'm standing and walking.

MeltedFace: I had an x-ray scan of my back, but that was like 5 years ago. I'm sorry to hear your story, it seems you have it worse than me...
As for the causes, I don't have any certain answers, but in university they taught us that malocclusion is empirically linked with poor posture and headaches!

For example:
Class 2 malocclusion => forward head posture =>
head becomes heavier and weights more on the spine, also causes hyperlordosis in the cervical curve =>
the other spinal curves also become exaggerated to compensate.

If a child sticks with this poor posture while growing up, maybe while keeping his/her head tilted to the left or right (can be caused by occlusion but also by myopia, or other things I've no idea about) I'd hypothesize that's why some muscles atrophy and others become way too big... and then the adolescent gets idiopathic scoliosis, because the big muscles pulled the bones to one side!
« Last Edit: May 04, 2017, 02:49:18 am by angelo22 »

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Re: On scoliosis
« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2017, 08:04:00 am »
for lower back pain id recommend 1 treatment atlax profilax...its all it took for all the 4 people i send it to and me to get our forward head posture solved and 2 backpain reduced 70%, 1 knee pain solved 100% and now its more difficult to sit 'wrong'than right. Normally i'd sit and just hang forward , not straight up. i could sit straight up , but i would have to forced it with musccle strength. Now it costs effort to sit the way i sit before. Like the structure now can keep itself up, and is bascically in the right postion. I have scoliosis too , but i am not sure if it helped for that though. I never had complaints, other than that it was visible i was skinnier when i was younger it was more visible than now. (aka bones stick out more so more obvious like shoulders  unevenly high. That part doesnt get solved by atlas profilax, but the guy said that treated me with it , said that over time the structure of the body slowly will even itself out more, since the cause of the unevenness is oftne the atlas, however since it has been in that position for pretty much your whole life, the muscles adapted towards that and at the moment its your muscles that are still holding some parts in the wrong position/location. When its uneven, some get longer or shorter ..etc.. Not sure if this was helpful, but since this method helped me more than any supplement ive ever taken or other health related thing ive ever done (See my old posts about it) i really recommend it to anyone with even somewhat related issues. Just read the reviews about it online..very good, and fortuantely consistant with my exprience and the 4 people in my life ive send there as well.

did anyone else did it here? i know 1 person did it ..forgot her name...the woman who had pictures of herself before after ncr too, that had the horse kicked in her face. I got the idea from her on another site

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« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2017, 10:56:31 am »
You should check the thread on handling bodies.

Scoliosis is not a problem of sideways curving of the spine.  It is much more than that.

Check this video and then check MeningealRelease.com

You can learn ABC™ yourself with a friend and save your body as well as time and money rather than paying someone who cannot do as much.

As I state in the video, the front view is useless, it is the side view that is most important and if you go to MeningealRelease.com   ,   sign up and learn the ABC First Rib Maneuver™ your body will work better than you imagine and you will know the rest can be accomplished consistently -- rather than empty promises that only work for some.