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Matt91

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Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2014, 05:57:17 pm »
There are before and after pictures on platos's site.

What negative experiences are you reffering to? I'd like to read them. I looked around myself and found 2. One woman who heard a crunching noise and who claims that se got deformed and the two deaths (one elderly person with osteoporosis and an infant). Appart from those, do you have any more? Which practitioner harmed people?

You're correct in that it's Jesse Js' system. There's a thread about it here on the forums. Ask MessiahMews who gets treatments from one of those practitioners.

In the end it's up to you. It's healthy being a skeptic. Listen to your gut. If it dosen't feel right then don't do it. There may be other ways for you to reach your goals.

The 'Neurocranial Restructuring Works' group on dailystrength.org hosts a bunch of threads... a few of them are negative responses.

There's this guy; http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/neurocranial-restructuring/discussions/messages/9343387

This lady apparently had bad results, but cannot find the details; http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/neurocranial-restructuring/discussions/messages/9624380

One here, don't know if it's the one you refer to; http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1478284

There are some negatives on this forum, even, if only minor niggles.

There are a couple of others that I cannot find at the moment, but that my mum has found. One woman was complaining of back pain and associated troubles. One guy was reporting dental issues?

There are plenty of positive testimonials, and I'm leaning towards having it done, just need some more information to cement the determination.

I'm sure that we are all wise enough here to appreciate that those most iniquitous allopathic profiteers of human misery are capable of fielding false testimonials in order to intimidate potential NCR aficionados into inaction.

The possibility that some NCR practitioners may be downplaying the risks of the procedure through multiple proxy accounts on these websites, also exists.

My gut says, 'do it.' There are some lingering doubts in my mind, and, also, in the mind of my folks.

As my username would suggest, I'm 22, and I'm not financially independent, so my parents still hold sway over what I do and when.

But I still feel that this has the possibility, in time, to improve my situation rather dramatically. And if my PIQ was to match my VIQ, I'd have much more of a future to look forward to, if only in that I will be much more capable of coping with life's challenges, which tend to be especially pronounced when you refuse to be a servile, self-deluded sycophant.

I don't have much to look forward to, otherwise.

Meh. We all got to die sometime. Must play some more Skyrim beforehand, though. :D
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« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2014, 07:56:30 pm »
I'll try to share my thoughts but they're only my unprofessional, non authoritative perceptions... but they still might help clarify things for you

More than a million people have been treated with NCR and BNS according to the doctors I talked to back in 2011. Statistically speaking the number of people who have negative results are actually very low (according to them - yes bias may play a role in these stats). We've got to look at the context of why certain people had a negative result. If I were you I'd look at every negative case I could find and figure out if what happened might possibly happen to you and weigh the possible benefits vs risks. For example hypermobility, I think of it as persistent "cranial sensitivity" will definitely occur with continual or overly powerful treatments and that's one of the reasons people take breaks. This is easily known, when I lay down at night on my pillow after the 3rd or 4th treatment, I feel a light ache on that part of my head due to the pressure of the pillow. NCR doctors will only treat people 4 times per month (1 consecutive series) to wait for things to become more "solid" again before treating, for this reason supposedly. For the vast majority of people, they get back to normal (insensitive/immoble) quickly, and the more they have NCR the faster they recover after a series but it's not understood why there are a few rare people (like the two people in that thread you linked) who remain sensitive, or develop other issues surrounding that. My laymans guess is it's because they had a major head injury during a time when they're very sensitive. Everyone knows that you should avoid hitting your head or doing something that puts yourself at unnecessary risk to your skull after NCR because the injury will be worse (like those people in the thread).  Yeah the NCR specialists will definitely downplay negative results and upplay positive ones to the extent of human nature - I mean my doctor was eager to jump to assumptions that it helped me with things that I later learned were more placebo effects than anything else. But I'm not going to go back and correct the testimonial now for those little things - you know? That happens in all forms of medicine. And on that note I think the extent of the allopathic world attacking therapies like this wouldn't go so far as fake reviews... it's enough just to have Stephen Barrett write a crappy, shallow article about NCR/BNS on his high-ranked webpage; and to keep control/persuasion over the editors of major medical journals. Howell and company have been having a really hard time submitting anything to a medical journal from what I've gathered, but I think they've got a couple articles in a lesser known journal, somewhere...

People can have negative results from massage, and this is way more invasive than massage. A lot of this is just really obvious and I think if you're worried about "hidden side effects" or something along those lines... it's extremely unlikely, but of course a possibility.

I think you've got the right attitude at any rate. It's good to be cautious.

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Re: NCR Newbie Q's...
« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2014, 04:53:13 am »
Also, if brain fog and memory problems are your only and biggest issues. I'd seriously start by cutting wheat, rye, barley, oats. In other words, gluten and grain free. If a couple of months of STRICTLY 100 % staying of the
dosen't help, then I'd try cutting something else like processed milk. Read up on gluten sensitivity/intolerance wheat allergy.

How's your weight? High? Low? Are you cold often? How do you react to eating food?
Body temperature? Libido? Etc. Are there othet things like these that you have problems with?

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« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2014, 06:15:00 am »
I'll try to share my thoughts but they're only my unprofessional, non authoritative perceptions... but they still might help clarify things for you.

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People can have negative results from massage, and this is way more invasive than massage. A lot of this is just really obvious and I think if you're worried about "hidden side effects" or something along those lines... it's extremely unlikely, but of course a possibility.

I think you've got the right attitude at any rate. It's good to be cautious.

Yes, we're pretty much agreed, Ben. In attitude and approach, we're simpatico. It's my parents that could do with more convincing, mainly... intuitively, I felt that there is something to this, as soon as I had heard of it.

Amazing that the self-appointed medical authorities have overlooked this. Probably purposefully.

There's always a risk with everything, of course. Not least life itself.

Your points are noted. :-)

Also, if brain fog and memory problems are your only and biggest issues. I'd seriously start by cutting wheat, rye, barley, oats. In other words, gluten and grain free. If a couple of months of STRICTLY 100 % staying of the
dosen't help, then I'd try cutting something else like processed milk. Read up on gluten sensitivity/intolerance wheat allergy.

How's your weight? High? Low? Are you cold often? How do you react to eating food?
Body temperature? Libido? Etc. Are there othet things like these that you have problems with?

Thanks for your continued thoughts and insights.

I believe that my PIQ deficits result in more than just brain fog and memory deficits. It is also the processing, interpreting, and sorting of information. In my case, it is much more debilitating than the more common complaints associated with mild ADD. A gap of 30 IQ points between VIQ and PIQ is pretty pronounced, even amongst 'ADD' sufferers. That's two full standard deviations, if the mean IQ is 100. The gap is even larger between the different elements of the overall IQ scores for each.

Bit embarrassing when you sound like a physicist, but struggle to find your way to class.

As much as people discount IQ tests nowadays, in my case, taking a formal WAIS test was illuminating as to why I appear so smart, but cannot intake information and work as quickly as my VIQ would suggest. A definite cognitive functioning disparity was clearly visible in my results. Given my delayed developmental milestones, this was evident at a very young age, which somewhat excludes some of the 'later environmental' explanations.

I'm of a fairly normal build. Pretty slim overall, but in a healthy way, rather than anorexic. Definitely not fat. Average height for a European; around 6'1" or so.

Eating food I'm alright... no notable reactions to certain foods. I don't eat red meat, as a general rule. Haven't eaten beef in a long time.

I do feel the cold somewhat, but not noticeably more than those around me.

My energy is currently pretty low, but I think that may just be the mild depression that comes with 'awakening', an emotionally compromised past (was seriously considering suicide at 13) and less than ideal life circumstances.

A myriad of attack vectors are being aimed at the general human populace. From EMF's, chemtrails, and now Fukushima... they are trying their level best to kill many of us off. It leaves us with many more possible sources of ill-health to consider, unfortunately.
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