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NCR Newbie Q's...
« on: December 28, 2013, 06:37:59 am »
Hi all.

Apologies for not introducing myself via the appropriate sub-forum. Intermittent internet access at the mo, dictates. I suppose that this post will function as an introduction of sorts, anyway. If it turns out to be a long one, I'm sorry.

Basically, I have had longstanding difficulties pertaining to processing information, working memory, attention, and concentration. This has been evident from a very early age, given some noticeable developmental aberrations; my walking was delayed, for example, and I didn't crawl... just got up one day, and started walking.

According to my mum, the obstetric nurses messed up the application of the monitoring band during delivery, and, in the blind panic as to the occurrence of possible hypoxia, I was hastily delivered via forceps. Given that I am otherwise perfectly healthy, and that my cognitive functioning is only impaired in some areas, leads me to think that lack of oxygen during the delivery wasn't the issue.

Having been formally assessed, there is a significant disparity betwixt my Verbal IQ and Performance IQ figures (according to the WAIS test that I took), indicative of impeded cognitive functioning on the left side of the brain. I was also deemed mildly dyspraxic as child, though it is likely that I wouldn't be deemed such, anymore. My Working Memory is particularly deficient; where my VIQ aspects were around the 140 mark, my WM was around 90. My PIQ aspects are generally around 105-110, plus or minus a few points depending, according to that IQ test, and other more informal ones.

I left the world of academia prematurely and without fulfilling anywhere near the potential I would have, if all was running smoothly. Part of that was disillusionment and growing frustration with 'the system' but a large part of it was attributable to my problems. With gainful employment increasingly scarce and competition increasing, especially where I live, I would like to be able to study towards more advanced qualifications in a chosen field, so as to make a living and not be a burden/disappointment to my parents, but my problems get in the way. Even my mum sometimes often makes comments, as others do, like 'you just have to try harder', as though I can simply force my way through what is a clear deficit in cognitive functioning. As it isn't evident on appearance, and as I sound so intelligent and capable, most people take my struggle for 'laziness', haughty arrogance, or carelessness.

BTW; my mum was pretty clued-up, regarding vaccines, and so I have only had one, I think, and even that one was administered later than usual and carefully considered, so I don't think these difficulties are attributable to neurological damage via 'vaccine.'

I'm fully acquainted with all manner of information regarding the catalogue of conspiracies going on, both within the sphere of allopathic medicine and elsewhere, as I would imagine most are, here.

To summarise, I believe the IQ disparity was caused by the forceps birth, and the resultant subtle damage to my cranial anatomy that resulted, inhibiting the flow of cerebrospinal fluid and thus, neurotransmitters, to the left side of the brain.

My noggin isn't noticeably irregular from outside appearances, but this seems the most plausible explanation.

Has anyone on this board any experience with NCR treatment and alleviation/cessation of learning difficulties? Any advice or possible insights?

I live in the South of England. I'm considering waiting for Dr. D Howell's next visit to Ireland or London, but it's going to be expensive, and very, very hard to convince my parents (particularly dad). It is, of course, uncertain as to how many treatments it'll take to have an effect, if any, and what degree of effect, and so on.

Anyway, thanks for any help, and a special thanks to 'MessiahMews', as I had first come across 'NCR' on her blog.

~Matt
« Last Edit: December 30, 2013, 02:21:03 pm by Matt91 »
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« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2013, 10:06:23 am »
Email a NCR doctor or call one and just ask them  :). I have heard progressions In everything that your talking about though I can give you no references at the moment. It will help im sure but sine your taking the first step into the world of all this, be prepared for it to be a long journey to your goal but well worth it. Definitely talk to an NCR specialist though even if its one far away.

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2013, 11:40:35 am »
Email a NCR doctor or call one and just ask them  :). I have heard progressions In everything that your talking about though I can give you no references at the moment. It will help im sure but sine your taking the first step into the world of all this, be prepared for it to be a long journey to your goal but well worth it. Definitely talk to an NCR specialist though even if its one far away.

I have contacted one of Dr. Howell's representatives, through his website. Apparently, substantial improvements in similar issues have been observed before, but without seeing me in person, they cannot assess my particular situation in detail, naturally.

I'm fishing around for some supporting anecdotal evidence, from independent NCR patients, who have seen a marked improvement in their learning difficulties after treatment, because I really don't want to part with so much cash only to find that it hasn't made a difference, and nor do I want to keep paying out for treatment after treatment.

In an ideal world, I would be entitled to sue the living daylights out of those careless obstetricians who delivered me like I was a pizza, instead of a fragile baby, but considering that the allopaths pretty much maim and kill children with impunity anyway, it's a moot point. Unfortunately.
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« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2013, 01:30:34 pm »
Hey Matt, I can't say whether I've heard anyone improving in the specific way you're describing, but I'm not at all discounting it either. I mean no offense to Dr. Howell but the statement they gave you was the generic one NCR specialists give everyone... it's pretty meaningless. You do have to walk into one of their clinics, and frankly most of them won't run proper diagnostics - they can tell you what they've dealt with experientially however -- but many of them have to deal with liabilities surrounding scope of practice and can't give you full answers or make any medical promises whatsoever. You'd need to see someone like Dr. John Lieurance in Florida, or maybe Dr. Howell himself. I'm sure both have seen many patients like you in the past... it's just a very specific issue, and your theory could actually be incorrect

By far the most likely thing that will improve from NCR relevant to this is mental clarity. Brain fog is usually eliminated over time, it won't go away all at once but can be significantly improved...oftentimes people like me who had it their entire lives didn't even realize it was there. Your whole world is just sort of foggy, and it can be difficult to retrieve information - working memory can be impaired.

If I were you, I'd give it a try: one session. You'll know in a single session whether this actually helps you with mental functioning. At that point you'll realize it's probably a long road ahead of you for a full recovery, or you'll realize this therapy is useless for your condition, but I wish you the best and what you're trying to achieve is definitely achievable.
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« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2013, 02:44:44 pm »
Hey Matt, I can't say whether I've heard anyone improving in the specific way you're describing, but I'm not at all discounting it either. I mean no offense to Dr. Howell but the statement they gave you was the generic one NCR specialists give everyone... it's pretty meaningless. You do have to walk into one of their clinics, and frankly most of them won't run proper diagnostics - they can tell you what they've dealt with experientially however -- but many of them have to deal with liabilities surrounding scope of practice and can't give you full answers or make any medical promises whatsoever. You'd need to see someone like Dr. John Lieurance in Florida, or maybe Dr. Howell himself. I'm sure both have seen many patients like you in the past... it's just a very specific issue, and your theory could actually be incorrect

By far the most likely thing that will improve from NCR relevant to this is mental clarity. Brain fog is usually eliminated over time, it won't go away all at once but can be significantly improved...oftentimes people like me who had it their entire lives didn't even realize it was there. Your whole world is just sort of foggy, and it can be difficult to retrieve information - working memory can be impaired.

If I were you, I'd give it a try: one session. You'll know in a single session whether this actually helps you with mental functioning. At that point you'll realize it's probably a long road ahead of you for a full recovery, or you'll realize this therapy is useless for your condition, but I wish you the best and what you're trying to achieve is definitely achievable.

Thank you very much for your feedback, Ben.

My theory could well be incorrect, it's merely the most likely explanation, to my mind, having closely examined the circumstances and possible causal linkages.

My mother, having worked for some notable Big Pharma companies in her time, was pretty careful with me, given the things she was privy to. I didn't have any of the vaccines that the other children had, and I believe that I was catered for properly, nutritionally speaking, in addition to many visits throughout my childhood to cranial osteopaths, homeopaths, naturopaths, and so on.

To quote from Dr Howell's website...

'Learning disabilities are frequently treated with prescriptions of Ritalin, a nervous system stimulant. The prevailing theory is that neurotransmitter deficiency in the brain leads to malfunctioning of the brain. The immediate solution is to increase neurotransmitter levels throughout the brain with Ritalin to correct the deficiency. This medication often helps, but it does not cure. It increases the levels of some neurotransmitters throughout the brain. The effectiveness of Ritalin shows that learning disabilities are not psychological but are, instead, conditions created by problems with nervous system function. A nervous system stimulant like Ritalin works by changing levels of neurotransmitters in the cerebrospinal fluid in the brain. This means that inappropriate levels of neurotransmitters in specialized areas of the brain cause learning disabilities. When the brain lacks neurotransmitters in some areas, concentration or interpretation of visual or auditory phenomena is impaired. So increasing the level of these neurotransmitters helps to temporarily get rid of the problem.

Then why doesn't everybody with learning disabilities take Ritalin or some similar medication? The problem with administration of Ritalin is the side effects, which are generally symptoms associated with other areas of the brain becoming overdosed with neurotransmitters. If some areas of the brain improve function by increasing levels of neurotransmitters, and if other areas of the brain get side effects by increasing the same, there is a problem of distribution, not a deficiency of neurotransmitters. So the symptomatic treatment of learning disabilities with medication that increases the level of neurotransmitters can never cure the problem because it doesn't address the situation properly.

A cure of learning disabilities must include optimization of fluid flow characteristics in the brain. With optimal flow of blood and cerebrospinal fluid, learning disabilities improve or cease.

The approach of NCR® is to improve the flow of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) by changing the shape of the skull. As the cranium optimizes, the flow of CSF becomes more and more uniform, removing the problem of poor distribution of the fluids in the brain.'


This seems to be the most likely explanation, for my case.

If I opt to go ahead, I will probably go in for a session with Dr Howell himself, when/if he returns to the UK/Eire at some point in the coming year. A friend of mine suggested 'craniosacral therapy' but given the above, I'm not convinced that it would do anything, in my case.

I think that most people who are diagnosed with 'ADD' or similar, simply take the drugs as prescribed. From my experience, some of them do report a certain degree of benefit, though studies have illustrated that the stimulants have pretty much the same effect on those without ADD, and it just doesn't address the crux of the problem.

A four-day treatment session with Dr Howell in Dublin (new patient) runs at 1300 USD, or at least it did, earlier this year.

Hmmm...
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2013, 04:19:17 pm »
Matt. It's worth a try if you can afford it. Health is worth almost anything.


Living in England gives you the option to either see Mr.Patient zero himself in Manchestet (Ian) or one of the endo nasal baloon chiropractors that follow the ABC protocol residing in the south of england. Check advanced biostructural correction.

I'd meet with Ian first, seeing as he is a former patient of Dr.Howell and has made his way back from a horrible state.


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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2013, 05:42:46 am »
Matt. It's worth a try if you can afford it. Health is worth almost anything.

Living in England gives you the option to either see Mr.Patient zero himself in Manchestet (Ian) or one of the endo nasal baloon chiropractors that follow the ABC protocol residing in the south of england. Check advanced biostructural correction.

I'd meet with Ian first, seeing as he is a former patient of Dr.Howell and has made his way back from a horrible state.

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Thanks, Knoppe.

I had heard of Ian Hedley from my internet research.

I've found 'ianhedley1@hotmail.co.uk' as his email address. I'll try to contact him.

Are there any details available for this ABC guy/gal?

How common are negative results/effects from cranial restructuring? Every alternative health modality comes under attack by the prevailing allopathic orthodoxy; the more fringe, the more vicious the attack, no matter the empirical evidence. Accordingly, CR receives a lot of ridicule, as you all are probably aware. I've long since learned to ignore these attacks.

That said, there are some negative accounts on the web, of NCR, and not just the two well-known deaths. It's impossible to absolutely verify the honesty of the source, of course, and whether they are just fabricated attacks by the usual suspects. I've learned the hard way that these pretended 'skeptics' can be pretty damn underhanded and deceitful.

What is the balance of experience on here of NCR?

Strange thing is, (not bragging, but...) I've actually got a pretty handsome, angular, and symmetrical face... it's one of my saving graces, in light of my problem. There are a few minor asymmetries in structure, like my brow ridge is slightly more pronounced on one side, but generally, I look alright.

I still think that my learning issues are attributable to a structural issue, unless anyone can offer a more likely explanation. Trying to be as objective as possible, here. I'm sure that some of the allopaths would argue that 'ADD' can be genetic, but that's generally just the argument they use to cover up their ignorance/denial of causative factors that suggest purposeful deception by the various appointed figureheads, 'experts' and authorities.

Anyway, thanks for the help, everybody. It is appreciated.

God bless you, one and all.

~Matt
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2013, 05:53:43 am »
Yeah. I stoped listening to others and started making up my own mind when it comes to these things.
How's your dental occlusion? Maybe your face is ok but your teeth would need aligning? How about nutrition? Gluten/wheat intolerance or any similar intolerance? Endocrine problems like thyroid or such? Fungae/candida?

I know that the brain for me is caused by the TMD. It started at the same time I got tinnitus and jaw pains. My whole head feels squashed and I'm concidered handsomeish (if you ask others, I hate my uneven face).

There are a lot of possible reasons. Start turning stones, man! :)

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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2013, 07:29:58 am »
Yeah. I stoped listening to others and started making up my own mind when it comes to these things.
How's your dental occlusion? Maybe your face is ok but your teeth would need aligning? How about nutrition? Gluten/wheat intolerance or any similar intolerance? Endocrine problems like thyroid or such? Fungae/candida?

I know that the brain for me is caused by the TMD. It started at the same time I got tinnitus and jaw pains. My whole head feels squashed and I'm concidered handsomeish (if you ask others, I hate my uneven face).

There are a lot of possible reasons. Start turning stones, man! :)

No, no known problems along those lines, as far as I know. Dental occlusion seems fine. I've got a very slight overbite, but apart from that, no problems. Nutritionally, I probably could be making more of an effort, but I don't drink or smoke, avoid sodium fluoride and artificial sweeteners, and I keep my bodily pH in check through bioelectrification; known colloquially as 'zapping.'

My learning difficulty has been evident from a very young age, which is why I somewhat discount the possibility that it is attributable to neurological damage acquired later, and, as mentioned, my mum was pretty much anti-vax from the beginning, so it wasn't vaccine damage.

I've got a fairly typical Northern/Western European facial structure. When I lift my hair up, a slight, gradual angular depression on the left side of the upper forehead is visible, just below the hairline, when compared to the right side, but you wouldn't notice unless you were examining closely.

Although I obviously can't remember my own delivery, it was apparently a pretty traumatic/rushed forceps. I used to cry a lot, as a child, and there is evidence that it was linked to some cranial problem, somehow. Seeing the cranial osteopath would apparently stop the crying and send me to sleep. My mother was just sneered at, when she reported as much to the mainstream docs.

On that note what the hell is wrong with the freaks in the medical fields nowadays? The internet is jam-packed with stories consistently illustrating the utter lack of care, compassion, and competence of those working in allopathic medicine. It's almost a requirement.

I can't stand all of the pop culture adulation that MD's and the like receive... they certainly don't earn it, any more than they earn their monster salaries.

Even myopia is a big scam. The vast majority of it is easily preventable. Unless it is congenital or caused by trauma, short-sightedness can be preempted through the use of plus lenses, particularly before pseudomyopia sets in.

We live in a world of lies and liars.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2013, 02:07:05 pm »
I'm not so in to cranial discrepancies, I'm more into occlusional problems seeing as I myself suffer from a bad bite. How're your dental arches? Wide and U-shaped or narrowmand V-shaped?
Nutrition and hormonal balances? Have you checked your thyroid levels?
There are many, many rocks to turn over. I'd try NCR out and if you can't feel any differance, I'd try checking into nutrition. Hell, I advoce anyone and everyone to stay the hell away from grains. It made a whole difference to me. I've been gluten/grain free for a year and my belly's soooo much better. Grains may make you deppressed.

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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2013, 02:42:36 pm »
I'm not so in to cranial discrepancies, I'm more into occlusional problems seeing as I myself suffer from a bad bite. How're your dental arches? Wide and U-shaped or narrowmand V-shaped?
Nutrition and hormonal balances? Have you checked your thyroid levels?
There are many, many rocks to turn over. I'd try NCR out and if you can't feel any differance, I'd try checking into nutrition. Hell, I advoce anyone and everyone to stay the hell away from grains. It made a whole difference to me. I've been gluten/grain free for a year and my belly's soooo much better. Grains may make you deppressed.

I'd say that my dental arches are U-shaped.

Not sure about hormones, thyroid levels, and all that. Can they cause these problems?

My learning difficulties were evident at a very young age. When I was learning to walk, for example. Given that my mum was vaccine aware, there wasn't really a whole lot of opportunity for my brain to be damaged by other means. I wasn't dropped on my head or anything.

This leads me to believe that the forceps birth was responsible, which is well known and understood as a possible cause of ADD and similar problems, by everybody; allopaths and otherwise.

If it does turn out to be the cause, it stands to reason that restructuring the cranium to it's original blueprint, would facilitate a decline in symptomology, and perhaps even eradication of the problem altogether, in time.

That's the hope. Maybe it's a 'pipe dream', but if it were possible... wow. It would mean an entirely different life for me.

A better life.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2014, 11:18:43 am »
Can anyone tell me anything else about NCR?

Contraindications? Dietary changes that I should make? Possibility of complications?

Has anyone else on here seen Ian Hedley?
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2014, 03:17:22 pm »
This is what Ian Hedley looks like today: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558509_614872281875156_615086086_n.jpg
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2014, 04:09:50 pm »
Are there any 'before' photos of him around?

Just wondering whether anyone here has actually seen the guy for treatment and can offer their experience?

I'm still a tad unsure as to whether go ahead or not. Not to cast aspersions on any personalities or claims made on this forum, but there are still many question marks in my head, surrounding the treatment. I've got parents to convince, and even if I can pull that off, it's not going to be a breeze getting to the place, paying for the hotel, paying for the treatment, et cetera.

There are some pretty negative testimonials on the web, which doesn't help matters.

Trying be as objective as possible. A realist. How much of a risk is it? These guys are all certified and insured, right?

And another thing...

Isn't/wasn't Jesse Jutkowitz of ABC fame, a Scientologist? What prompted the disciplinaries, reported violations and the licence revocation?

I'm not one to prejudge other's belief systems unduly, but Scientology doesn't exactly have a great rep in the whole 'ethics' department, their doctrines and beliefs are just bizarre beyond all consideration, and their conduct is creepy in the extreme.

Too many in the alternative health field, are seemingly cashing in, unscrupulously, on the growing disillusionment with allopathy. Not aimed at anyone here. But it is plainly obvious that some names floating around in the zeitgeist, have succumbed to the very same greed that has so corrupted the mainstream, alleged 'medicine' that exists today. The same 'medicine' that results in several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of iatrogenic deaths annually, in the United States alone. I know that people have got expenses, and we all need to survive, but my...

Serving greed, avarice, ego, and lust for power, does NOT a 'spiritual' person make, no matter the professed beliefs, or lack thereof.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2014, 05:17:57 pm »
There are before and after pictures on platos's site.

What negative experiences are you reffering to? I'd like to read them. I looked around myself and found 2. One woman who heard a crunching noise and who claims that se got deformed and the two deaths (one elderly person with osteoporosis and an infant). Appart from those, do you have any more? Which practitioner harmed people?

You're correct in that it's Jesse Js' system. There's a thread about it here on the forums. Ask MessiahMews who gets treatments from one of those practitioners.

In the end it's up to you. It's healthy being a skeptic. Listen to your gut. If it dosen't feel right then don't do it. There may be other ways for you to reach your goals.