Break the Matrix

Hey folks!

So, I'll introduce myself briefly before sharing my experiences so far.

I'm thirty and I've been plagued by postural, neck and shoulder issues, TMJ and horrible tinnitus for the last 10 years. About one and a half year ago I had enough and quit grains aswell as started researching TMJ and tinnitus for real. To make a long story short. I'm currently 3 months in treatment with braces and ALF (advanced lightwire functionals). I've done a few facepulling sessions and 3-4 self NCR sessions. I'm looking to unlock the connective tissue in my skull to help the orthodontic treatment I'm recieving to solve my over jet and overbite (aswell as scissor bite). I belive that all tvings are needed to restore balance. Including a change of diet (looking into "peatatarianism".


My experience with self NCR/endo nasal baloon therapy so far is nothing special. My treatments have been as follows:


Treatment 1

Inflated baloon in nasal cavity and stoped right after (couldn't get it in the turbine and freaked out).

Treatment 2

Inflated in the right upper turbine only. Stopped when gag reflex/coughing set in. Tears came out of my right eye. No pop, no feeling of movement. Preparation = overhead squats to get circulation going.

I felt like I had a cold and felt a bit more tightness in my skull and neck. Stifness aswell. Upside is easier to breathe through nose.


Treatment number 3

Inflated in upper right, lower right, upper left and lower left. Gag reflex/coughing in each turbine. No release. More tightness/stifness in skull and neck. Preparation = overhead squats.

Felt like I had a cold for a few hours and the skull/head felt shaken. When walking afterwards I felt a bit straighter though skull still tight.


Treatment 4

Felt like cavities where closed somehow. Treated upper and lower right and lower left. No release. No gag reflex/coughing. Still tightness/stifness in head and neck. Gag reflex/coughing somewhat in upper right. Preparation = none.

This time I tried inflating a bit in the turbine before pushing throug. I did not like this as I felt like I got it through properly. I'll stick to pushing it in before pumping slowly.

I haven't been using a lot of force when pumping. I've been using small pumps until gaging, waiting for release/movement which haven't come yet. I'm thinking there's something I need to change in order to avoid messing stuff up, like the atlas vertebrae or other bones.

Thoughts? Suggestions? Any help is more than welcome. There's no NCR practioner in my country and I don't have much choice than trying myself at the moment.

/Knoppe

I've been taking a bit of a break for the mast couple of days due to having a cold. Clogged sinuses and a sore throat, nothing fancy. I've been looking through some photos of me and noticed that there in fact is an asymmetri between my left and right side of my face. Which is normal and how it's supposed to be. But, since I'm experiencing physical problems (TMJ and such) I feel that perhaps some things are ment to be more symmetric. My left side seems to be a bit lower than my right side and next to the ridge of my nose there's a lumpy area on my righy side. At first I thought it to be an anomaly of some sort but after thinking it through for a bit, I decided that it's supposed to be like that. My left side therefore needs to be lifted.

Pretreatment workout consisted of 30 air squats (couldn't be arsed to do more seeing as I just had a cold ^_^).

In the upper turbinate on my left side the baloon went... and I noticed that I couldn't get it through the nasal cavity. "Crap!" I said to my self. "Let's do the lower turbine instead!" Alas, a bit of a cough was all that I could produce.

And so I tried the upper RIGHT side. After having coughed for 2 min while carefully inflating the baloon, my ears got that feeling you get when being under water. A small pop or crushing sound might have made it's way out from somewhere in my head. My ears still feel like that but it's ok because this time I actually felt the baloon going into the throat. I tried inflating trough the constant coughing but gave it a rest after a while. The baloon keeps deflating while under preassure and I had to make small but intense pumps to maintain some kind of preassure.

I think I'm making progress. Damn the left side, though. I'm wondering if only treating the right side might make the left side worse. It seems like that side's closed up.

Ok, how do you know when you get to the throat? I get the horrible coughing feeling, like somethings chocking me. No gaging what so ever. I haven't sneezed yet but I think I'm still in the turbines and inflating.

On a sidenote. I did facepulling after the session today and I felt a lot more stetching from the mask. Even came to a point where I felt it was too much, even though I use one rubber band. I tried using two for a while on the right side but felt dizzy after about 5 min.

Hmm, interesting. My bite seems leveled even though my face clearly is "off balance". Have you noticed any improvements in symmetri so far? Do you face pull?

I don't like how that might read. I'm also doing FP and NCR for a host of other perceived benefits to such as improvements to looks and breathing.

I've only got 2 weeks experience with NCR but I'll try, hmm are you using lube? I lube my finger cot up and I make sure I'm not wasting any of its length when I attach it to my inflation bulb. Even so I'm not sure if the length is that crucial since the finger cot expands so much length wise with inflation.
I normally stuff the cot up the nasal passage as far as I can with a tooth pick and make sure it isn't going to expand at the entrance to my nostril too much since there is quite  a lot more space here and this is where the pressure will naturally want to go if there is too much loose finger cot in this area. I use gentler inflations to move the finger cot through the passages to the throat and it is obvious when it gets there. I've got a big nose (underdeveloped maxilla) and tight passages too and I'm not having any trouble so far getting to the throat.

I use olive oil, I just smear a little bit on the cot with my fingers then insert. I always re-apply for every inflation though as the cot gets covered in nasal wetness which reduces the effect of the lube. I read user CP's posts listed on his profile just now and maybe reading the last one of his will be helpful to you.
Ben

Hi guys,
I'm newly registered to this site but I have been following it for a very long time now. And I've been performing self NCR on and off since 2011; more off than on because I think I was doing it wrong, just not getting it. It seems like a lot of people here are having the same experiences I've had for a LONG time as far as not really getting it(feeling a release/movement,hearing the cracking release sound).
Anyway recently when this forum became active again I was hoping to come across any mention of something I wasn't doing before, and I did.
It was in a recent post where bstratt mentioned something about inflating and then "pushing through" and I was like OHH maybe that's what it is.
So I started up on self NCR again but this time with the balloon I "pushed through."

*Here's what I was doing all this time, and for a long time, that wasn't doing anything(i think).
**** I would lead the balloon into a turbinate and get it as far back and then inflate it and it would inflate through the back of my throat, and just poke it's way to the other side. Don't get me wrong sometimes I would feel something that seemed like a release and I would hear a little clicky noise back there and in my ears but obviously after my experience with doing it the way I am now with 'pushing through' this wasn't enough. For me now, I know the difference and when i feel a release I KNOW it's a release. Before I was unsure.

*Here's the way I do it now(after a very long time of unsure releases).
****So now instead of leading the balloon as far back into the turbinate as I could I just direct the balloon into a specific turbinate and slip it in(not worrying about getting it super deep, but definatley feeling confident it's directed toward a specific turbinate). What I do next is give the balloon a couple pumps to get it firm(usually one and a half pump to two full pumps), and the I PUSH THROUGH into the turbinate and pump some more. Now that I am doing it this way there is no doubt in the release I am feeling and hearing. Now I know the way I was doing it before wasn't working(for me).
-just a side note for when I push through: when I push through, the balloon will usually easily find its way back into the turbinate just nicely unless I didn't direct it to a turbinate properly. If I try to push through and it feels like I'm just flattening the inflated balloon into the wall of my nose I know I don't have the balloon aligned properly and take it out and direct it toward a turbinate again.

Anyway that's the way that works for ME. I have been following these post for a long time now and just recently decided to register so I could comment this. I see a lot of people who seem to be struggling to feel a release like I have for so long, again since 2011. And it wasn't until I read that one little post that bstratt wrote about "pushing through" that I had another little bit of hope with self NCR. His comment actually mentioned something about -twisting the balloon and pushing through- I tried the twisting thing but for me personally and in my situation the pushing through method is working without twisting.
Again I just wanted to share MY experience, and I'm not saying this will help you with your release but it most definately helped with mine.
Now when I feel a release I absolutely know it and don't have that doubt of "did it do anything?"

It's only been a few days of treating this way and I feel it's doing something more that the past couple years that I've been doing it the other way. My face is wider and I actually feel that subtle soreness that bstratt mentions afterwards.

I hope this helps somebody because I know I was frustrated with feeling a release for a long time.



Oh and another thing, thank you Ben for your update photos you look really nice.
I read your comment of hopefully putting other's progress photos up with their permission I hope we can see some soon!
I always thought it was weird that there weren't any how to videos of people performing self NCR on youtube or anybody sharing them through here for each other, just a thought for any of you who are comfortable doing this, I definately am NOT lol so I guess I can see why there aren't any :p

Thanks for posting this Marc! Awesome. A lot of people make that mistake when they start out, if it weren't for the fact that I had NCR I probably would have kept doing it that way (the wrong way) for more than a couple months myself. It's easy to think you're inflating in the right spot when you're just in the turbinate.