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Face Pulling technique
« on: October 11, 2016, 07:23:00 am »
Hello everyone,

I am new to face pulling and just like everyone else, I am trying to be the best version of me. I have read through majority of the posts on this topic but I still had a few questions. I understand that face pulling uses the anchoring of the teeth and I can not afford to go out and buy a special retainer for this but I do have a retainer from my Invisalign. I was wondering if I put the retainer on, use fingers on my teeth, and pull upward and forward, will I get the same results? I do not know if anybody has tried this but I didn't want to do it if people had bad experiences doing it this way. I also was thinking I could put my thumbs on my palate, near my back molars, and pull upward and forward. Would that also work? Which one would be more effective? If anybody has done either of these with success, please let me and everybody else know.

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Re: Face Pulling technique
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2016, 10:32:38 am »
People have had results with using their thumbs, mouthguards tied to sholeaces, even biting on belts and towels. It doesn't matter much what you pull with, but the crucial part seems to be pairing it with NCR or other methods that loosen the maxilla and allow it to come forward in the first place.

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« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2016, 08:17:29 pm »
What techniques besides NCR is there to loosen the maxilla?

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2016, 12:58:43 am »
I'm Currently I'm using a belt for face-pulling, and I've been the " classic" method of the hockey mask before. I get results from both. I'm not sure which one gives more results, since somehow I get so used to my new look that I almost forgot what my starting position was half a year ago! I have made pictures, but these changes are things that are not always seen so easily in pictures.

The last few days i seem to get more results with a slightly altered version of belt-facepulling. What I do is , while biting on the belt, pull repeatedly upwards,forward, upward forward etc...Like 10 times or so..Pretty much as hard as I can can. With each pull,  I hear the cracking sound (cracking sound is good)...and after i've done this, I put my thumb in my mouth and push upwards with power. Then i hear alot of cracking sounds too. After i've pushed upwards in my mouth for a few seconds, pushing upwards does no longer give the cracking sound. This makes me assume that the maxilla is not loose anymore, but like 'fully connected' again into a stable position. The interesting thing I find about this sort of cracking sound, is that it really does not give any sensation of pain whatsoever (I tell this for those who think such sound may be a bad indicator)

When I just pull upwards with my thumb in my mouth, without loosening up the maxilla with the belt, there is not much cracking sound at all. I think because the maxilla is not loose at that moment, its harder to re position it. This really might be the key to re-positioning the maxilla. I use this method like 5-10 times a day

I'm curious if others also will experience more results with this method, so feel free to try..! ;)


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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2016, 06:00:02 am »
Thanks Ryan, that is an interesting technique that I'll have to try. Currently I use my thumbs to do it and my jaw feels a little bit loose more afterwards but I rarely get the cracking sound. I'll definitely try your technique to loosen up my maxilla before I use my thumbs. Do you sometimes notice the next morning that your jaw starts to feel a little right and starts crackling? I don't if this is something to be concerned about, if I'm doing something wrong, or my tmj acting up?

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2016, 06:55:18 am »
You are saying you have TMJ...So i would use that as an indicator of whether you're doing it good or not. Did you notice an increase in TMJ complaints or not?

 I do not have a stiff feeling in the morning. Feeling a little 'right'"? Sorry, i do not understand that. I'm no native english speaker..what does feeling a little right mean?


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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2016, 08:58:46 am »
Ryan: I meant to say a little tight. I tend to see if I am doing my facepulling right depending how my jaw feels. Sometimes after I facepull, I open my mouth wide to see if jaw makes a cracking sound or not. Sometimes it feels tight and cracks while other times it feels nice and loose. For some reason I haven't been able to do it right. If I even slight pull in the wrong direction then I tend to hear the cracking noises afterwards.

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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2016, 11:27:31 am »
Hi Ryan, what site do you get the retainer from with the correct hooks for facepulling with the hockey helmet? since i intend to build it, i dont have braces or retainers or anything like that and so am struggling to find where i get get a custom made retainer from, ive found the helmet from from ebay jus cant find the retainers, help anyone?

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« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2016, 11:21:55 pm »
Hey Ryan,

How do you know if you are pulling straight? Without looking in the mirror, if I pull what I periceve to be straight, i tending to get cracking in my jaw but when I look in the mirror and pulling Straight, from my perspective it look like I'm pulling left. Do you know what I mean? It's just weird and I didn't want to be doing things wrong. When it feels like I'm pulling more left, my jaw does feel better but I don't want to end up pulling my maxilla and my jaw left.

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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2016, 11:50:19 am »
hi,i've been using the belt facepulling technique where you fasten the belt to a pull up bar and then lean back and use your bodyweight as the pulling force but after a couple of weeks the left side of my neck was starting to hurt so i wrapped a sweater around my neck while doing it and the pain went away but now i feel the tip of my index finger of my left arm a little numb which i think comes from my neck..has anyone else experienced anything similar?
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2016, 01:33:52 pm »
hi,i've been using the belt facepulling technique where you fasten the belt to a pull up bar and then lean back and use your bodyweight as the pulling force but after a couple of weeks the left side of my neck was starting to hurt so i wrapped a sweater around my neck while doing it and the pain went away but now i feel the tip of my index finger of my left arm a little numb which i think comes from my neck..has anyone else experienced anything similar?

Yeah that is a reckless method. Let's say you weigh the average 70 kg / 150 lbs. Then consider how fragile  face and neck are. They are not made to withstand such forces. It's huge overkill, because facepulling works just fine with much lesser forces. Any extra force won't give additional benefit, but it does increase the risk of injury.

If you're cabable of pushing your posterior tongue on the soft palate and drive it through towards the roof of your throat, you probably won't need to facepull at all. You will start feeling pressure on your face almost immediately.

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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2016, 02:18:53 pm »
yes i've been mewing for about 6 months and my progress was starting to really slow down the last 2 months so i started the belt facepulling.i'm 23 so i guess i'll just have to accept that it's going to take a long time

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« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2016, 04:41:58 pm »
How significant has your progress been in these 6 months? Have you been performing/receiving any NCR? Given that you still have potential for improvement in the first place, it should help you push through your plateau by relieving some of the tension you've been accumulating in your skull.

For the past couple of weeks I've been inflating through each turbinate 2-5 times a day depending how much I crave it (got this idea from user Walrus who had had success with increasing the frequency), and it seems like mewing and occassional towelpulling have been more effective during this time than during the previous 1 months when I was doing inflations only every other day and one side per session. I think my cheeks are finally starting to fill in and eyes beginning to gain more support from orbital rims. Pretty exciting stuff.

I've been using the bare minimum amount of pressure needed to make the ears pop. So far there have been no side effects, so I'm going to keep up with this more intense treatment frequency until my body tells otherwise.

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« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2016, 07:14:48 pm »
i have made some very good progress these 6 months.when i started i had a huge asymmetry in my jaw/chin,(one side of the jaw was recessed & not developed at all while the other was sharper & chin was pointing towards the undeveloped side),almost flat cheekbones,receding chin,sclera show and weak brow-ridge.now the jaw asymmetry has improved very much but i still have work,cheekbones have greatly improved as they've moved up very close to my eyes and more forward,sclera show is almost completely gone,brow-ridge has come more forward,chin has come more forward as well,it's still pointing to one side but it's improving.the progress has slowed down the last 2 months and i don't get the cracking sound of the jaw as often anymore but i get a clicking sound a lot (which i assume means that the bone is moving at a way slower rate).how long do you estimate that it's going to take to fix my jaw/chin asymmetry completely?a year maybe?i've also began the thumb face pulling technique for a week now (2-3 min sessions 3 times a day) along with belt facepulling & mewing.

what is NCR?is it a crane that you put on your head?sorry i'm new to this site.
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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2016, 07:49:12 am »
That doesn't sound bad at all.

NCR is short for neurocranial restructuring, and it involves inflating latex balloons deep inside your nose/upper throat in order to generate pressure against sphenoid bone and to loosen its hold on maxilla and other bones in the skull. It's excellent for correcting facial asymmetries, even more so than mewing. It's hard to estimate how long it will take you to reach your destination without being able to see any pictures of your face, but most will achieve plenty of progress in 1-2 years, many of those being older than you and me. NCR should speed up this process.

The great thing is that you can perform NCR for yourself without having to pay hundreds of dollars to go see a certified professional. It may look a bit intimidating at first glance, but it's pretty easy and safe to perform once you get the hang of it. PM me your email adress if you're interested and I'll send you the self treatment guide.
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