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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2016, 10:16:12 am »
If you don't see the dramatic difference in facial structure, from frontal to side profile, then you are delusional. Just because you cant get results, dont mean others cant.
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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2016, 02:40:40 pm »
There is no point in arguing with you. You've become a fanboy of something that looks ambiguous. You have sentenced yourself to be misled by your poor point of critic

I don't try to discredit the method he is using neither the guy himself. The method has sense; I do not deny.

All I did was share my point of view. I've read other threads he made and he went thru braces and who knows what else. So the whole change cannot be attributed to beltfacepulling, Go figure. His "structure" still looks rather identical

How effective could this be? I don't know but If Tyler did hurt himself doing traditional FP to a point where he became insane about it what can "Hanging your head on a bar with a belt" do to your skull  :o

I still like the method that Quantum proposed as It doesn't looks very invasive. Being the guinea pig and documenting the changes is the only real answer

And yes... I've experienced A LOT of changes since I started my journey into Cranial Restructuring and I know this because I've been documenting everything by taking several photos month after month with the same angle/head position/neutral stance/background/illumination/etc. and not using the "photos I took from my last trip" as a reference


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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2016, 06:17:02 pm »
Identical??? lol
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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2016, 05:35:27 pm »
I checked out that link to that forum as well, that guy looks pretty strange, also the jist of the thread is that he won't post any photos of his face that match the position of his face in the original before photo, he keeps doing this weird pouty smile face that obviously excentuates his check bones, some people are even saying that he may have acromegaly which is a disorder of the pituitary gland that causes the bones of the body to grow larger than normal resulting in a bigger head ect. my own personal interest in these things is more from a general wellbeing viewpoint better flow of cerebrospinal fluid better posture better spinal health more balanced body clearer mind ect, I find all the cosmetic stuff kind of depressing, striving for that perfect face is a fools game in my opinion.

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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2016, 05:06:04 am »
The Person started when he was 18, doing the Face Pulling, along with constant Mewing, and Tough Chewing Gum.

No way he has some Hormonal disorder, that's **** idiotic speculation, he doesn't look that weird just overly masculine and Asian, he made his face jaw and cheekbones to wide and Pronounced, but just goes to show you the great amount of change possible and how quickly it could change in just a year. But overall he Looks Much better. Just that his eye lids are just too squinty and stretched now.

Besides, what he was doing had some pretty extreme amount of force.
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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2016, 04:08:03 pm »
Yeah, I'm not really advocating everything that guy talked about on the forum either. I don't believe its a good idea to pull with a high degree of force (like the usage of your body weight to exert a pulling force on the jaw). Ultimately, I don't even think this is about pulling the bones in the face, but more about stimulating the muscles that lead to better facial development, and pulling adds resistance to strengthen and break down the muscle fibers. Therefore, you shouldn't pull any more than is necessary to give your muscles a good stimulus.

However, as Monarch mentioned earlier in the posts, I now feel that chewing with the far back molars are the absolute most important aspect of good facial development. After doing these exercises for a little while now, I've come to the realization that the muscles associated with the chewing action of the back molars were very weak. I had made a habit to chew almost exclusively with my front (anterior) molars rather than the back (posterior) molars. Now, certain muscles on my mandible are starting to get stimulated and are starting to grow. My face is starting to widen, and I am reaching Johnny Depp levels of aesthetics. In short, I am slowly becoming a god.

I encourage you guys to try this at your own pace. Pay attention to your body, if the muscles are sore its a good thing, but if its super painful the next day then its a bad thing. Don't over exert yourself. 1-2x a week with about 5-7 short intervals of chewing/pulling is the way to go.

Its about health guys, aesthetics are nothing more than a pleasant side effect of all of this. My breathing and posture turned to **** after a round of orthodontics, and I'm just trying to fix what the orthodontists had wronged. I've been also thinking of the importance of my Jaw's range of motion and its importance towards optimal breathing. It seems to me that its important for one to have the ability to open their mouth WIDE so that the airways can be free and open.


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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2016, 05:33:41 pm »
I checked out that link to that forum as well, that guy looks pretty strange, also the jist of the thread is that he won't post any photos of his face that match the position of his face in the original before photo, he keeps doing this weird pouty smile face that obviously excentuates his check bones, some people are even saying that he may have acromegaly which is a disorder of the pituitary gland that causes the bones of the body to grow larger than normal resulting in a bigger head ect. my own personal interest in these things is more from a general wellbeing viewpoint better flow of cerebrospinal fluid better posture better spinal health more balanced body clearer mind ect, I find all the cosmetic stuff kind of depressing, striving for that perfect face is a fools game in my opinion.


I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my after before: http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp

Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.

I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.

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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2016, 05:55:28 pm »
Do you have any photos of your face from the side? I think a good indicator of your maxilla moving is the tip of the nose pointing more up (seen from the side) and the mandible coming forward.

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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2016, 08:39:59 pm »

I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my after before: http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp

Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.

I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.

Thanks for posting. Any insights you may have gained from your conversations with him? Not sure if your clenching in the selfie, but it definitely looks like your getting some results! Your well on your way to depp-like aesthetics, congratulations.


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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #24 on: June 25, 2016, 09:40:03 pm »

I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my after before: http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp

Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.

I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.

Thanks for posting. Any insights you may have gained from your conversations with him? Not sure if your clenching in the selfie, but it definitely looks like your getting some results! Your well on your way to depp-like aesthetics, congratulations.

Most of the information you need is in the lookism thread. Him and I agree that using your knees is the most effective way to get the job done. I actually got a very large luggage strap which is much more durable than your average belt. Since it is so long, I can use my legs fully extended to apply pressure. I've been experimenting with two-stage pulling sessions. First I gently pull the maxilla forward. I apply virtually no upward force. Then I switch to pulling almost completely vertically. When you pull upward you can apply way more pressure than forward I have found. I find the gentle pulling forward loosens the maxilla (yes you can actually feel it) and then the upward motion compacts it along with the other structures it drags along. I've been slowing down the last few days because I have a really bad canker sore (1 inch long!) that is causing my entire mouth to hurt, but other than that, steady progress! Good lucks guys and if you want to get into contact with me I guess just leave a reply or PM me.

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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2016, 01:53:44 pm »
I've ended up with a pretty similar technique, but for the warm up session I use a towel. Biting on a towel with all teeth and pulling forward feels much better and effective than pulling forward with just a belt and back molars. I believe it is also closer to the natural function of jaws, very similar to ripping meat / skin off a dead animal. But the belt is still a good tool for generating good amount of upwards force. It may be helpful to keep the ends of the belt quite apart from each other so that the pulling motion widens the palate towards the sides too, instead of pulling just upwards.

Thanks for the OP for this thread and those links. I've been mewing since January with barely noticeable results, but for the last week I've been facepulling with intense short bursts of force and I've been able to feel how my bite gets a little better every day. Today I noticed that I can now see the edges of my cheekbones with my eyes when I look to the sides. For the first time of my life too , since I was put on retractive orthodontics at a very young age. I wonder if an optimal maxilla position would enable one to see his chin too just by looking down.

As much as I hate to romanticizing things, I can't help thinking we truly are pioneers of something new (or old, depending on how you approach the dilemma of modern recessive faces). It looks like the science of facial aesthetics is just on the verge of making a breakthrough on the internet. People in many online communities are beginning to get results, I hope in a few years of time there will be plenty of progress pictures to make facepulling look more legit. Considering how outlandish this method is inevitably going to seem to the average person, well documented evidence is certainly needed. I will definitely post my before/afters if the changes end up being remarkable enough.

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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #26 on: June 27, 2016, 06:09:17 am »
Hi,
I'm new to face pulling.  I started a few days ago to try and improve my receded face after extraction orthodontics as a teen (and my face was pretty bad before then! :-[). I've been biting down on a doubled-up ribbon, rather than a belt, so that I could keep the teeth in contact. 

Initially, I felt aches in the back of my neck.  But now I get random aches in my forehead, especially where I have a few dents which I got from one or two knocks, as a child.  No pressure feelings in my cheekbones yet, so I'm wondering if I'm doing it right?...Not sure if you pull vertically with your arms up by the sides of your ears, or upwards but diagonally? 

Also, I think this has caused some facial lengthening, somehow....I've always had a tiny bit of sclera showing under my left iris, but now I'm getting a bit under my right, as well.   Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on??


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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #27 on: June 27, 2016, 08:32:59 am »
Hi,
I'm new to face pulling.  I started a few days ago to try and improve my receded face after extraction orthodontics as a teen (and my face was pretty bad before then! :-[). I've been biting down on a doubled-up ribbon, rather than a belt, so that I could keep the teeth in contact. 

Initially, I felt aches in the back of my neck.  But now I get random aches in my forehead, especially where I have a few dents which I got from one or two knocks, as a child.  No pressure feelings in my cheekbones yet, so I'm wondering if I'm doing it right?...Not sure if you pull vertically with your arms up by the sides of your ears, or upwards but diagonally? 

Also, I think this has caused some facial lengthening, somehow....I've always had a tiny bit of sclera showing under my left iris, but now I'm getting a bit under my right, as well.   Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on??


I dont know what to tell you, maybe youre mouth breathing.

Just keep on doing it and mew, make sure your mouth is closed while you are sleeping, doung this loosens the bones.
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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #28 on: June 27, 2016, 10:12:38 am »
Since you started a few days ago your bones and sutures may be so loose that you're experiencing temporary enlivenment (?) In the long term, proper oral posture + pulling should only shorten the face. Also, yes, generally you want to pull upward and forwards to get the best result. If you have a longer face, focus on the vertical force.

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Re: Chewing with Incisors
« Reply #29 on: June 27, 2016, 12:04:16 pm »
Thanks for your replies.   Much appreciated!

Gucci- I've been mewing for a year with some slight improvement..But, there's still not enough room for my whole tongue to go flat against the palate, on both sides.  My local orthodontist only offers removable appliances to children, according to their website.  But, they offer Damon or Invisalign to adults, so I may try whichever one can widen my dental arches.  You're right- I should also tape my mouth shut before I sleep!

Jamo- I hope you're right and it's just my face adjusting! The sclera doesn't always show under my right iris. So it could be my posture, that's off.  The sclera always shows a little bit under my left iris, though.  My whole face is asymmetrical, really.  Want to continue face pulling...Hope I start to feel pressure in my cheekbones, soon.