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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Advice Needed for 17 Year Old
« on: July 30, 2017, 03:09:18 pm »
Some user here suggested rubber tubes for chewing. Apparently they're used in myofunctional therapy. Might be worth a try if money is an issue.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Natural-Slingshot-Catapult-Surgical-Elastic/dp/B01N6B2POF/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1501452366&sr=8-1&keywords=surgical+tube

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That is a good question and one that I've spent time thinking about too. Your last sentence is probably close to the reality of the situation. Given the numerous sutures of the skull, there should be many unique ways improper and proper growth could manifest and be combined in any sub-optimally developed face. One could have a wide palate but a downswung mid-face, whereas someone else may have a properly positioned maxilla but narrow palate etc. Then there's the age factor. Recession that begins in childhood is probably going to turn out differently than recession that begins after most of the growth is done.

As for your question about whether expanding the palate could cause overjet, I doubt it. Overjet seems to be a problem that stems from some kind of structural recession. Expansion or forward movement of the maxilla should lessen it in most cases. Conventional orthodontists use retractive treatments to correct overjet because they focus on the teeth, disregarding the structural root of the problem. It's essentially a band-aid solution

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You're looking at a face that has undergone plastic surgery. Her face does not have a great structure in my opinion. Look at how far down the teeth are in comparison to the eyes. In an ideal face, drawing a triangle with two corners at the outer edges of the eyes and one corner at the tip of the incisors would result close to an equilateral triangle. Her face is longer than that. In the rare pics where she actually smiles wide, her smile is gummy. Not a sign of a well developed face.






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Thanks for at least checking in to tell us what's up. It's a shame you felt the need to delete the whole thread.

(I'm compiling all this info gimme a second on the sources. I might toss them all into a single post)

Please do, it would surely enlighten many.

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He seemed like a sketchy fellow, wouldn't even post parts of his face due to "professional reasons". He was also hellbent on promoting palate expansion as the most important treatment one can do. Either overly paranoid or a bracesshop shill  ;D

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This article may be of interest to you http://www.debugyourhealth.com/orthodontics-and-cranial-structure/

In my opinion, a 4 year old shouldn't need any appliances. At that age the bone is so malleable that changes in both function and structure are easy and quick to achieve at home.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Another Update For You Guys
« on: July 14, 2017, 03:34:02 am »

Absolutely. Very eloquently put.

I actually do that exact skull rotation.
Cheers. The movement in question seems to strengthen the occipital muscles too. I usually wake up with stiff forward head posture that opens up as the day progressess. So far I had not been able to avoid the stiffness no matter how much I stretched during the day. I could have the perfect range of motion in the evening and still wake up stiff.

However, after exercising the occipital muscles last evening, today I woke up with great range of motion in the neck and the rest of the body. I was able to stand straight right out of the bed. This has further convinced me of the grander importance of strengthening the weak & lengthened muscles instead of lengthening the strong & shortened muscles in imbalanced muscle groups. A muscle can stiffen overnight, but not weaken. Atrophy/weakening takes far longer than that. When both the muscle and its "countermuscle" have good muscle tone, they won't allow each other to shorten much during the night.

Do you guys feel ornkjow what is good and bad feelings? I feel when doing that pressure beneath or between my eyes - is this okay?

Due to our unique situations, it's a question you have to ask your body, not us. Do you like the sensation? Or do you hate it? Of course, it's not always this black and white, but with a little practice you will be able to listen to your intuition in order to make use of the more subtle bodily signals you usually ignore.

Also, it's not like you get direct and straight "answers" from the body. You have to force the answer out by making yourself to decide whether or not you like a sensation. Allow yourself to only answer 100% yes or 100% no. There's no middle ground. By practicing in this way, it will become easier and easier to judge whether something is an overall beneficial or harmful thing for the body. You will become able to recognize whether the body accepts or rejects a certain food ingredient for example. If you're really deficient in calcium, munching egg shells can feel almost pleasurable due to it being mostly calcium carbonate. It doesn't necessarily taste incredible, but you will feel a subtle urge to continue. It's similar to how pregnant women can crave for weird "foods" like chalk or mud. In that case the urge is just so strong that it's harder to accidentally ignore.

I would have dismissed this kind of talk as some kind of hippie bullshit a couple of years ago, but recently I've begun to really appreciate the potential benefits of increased intuitive awareness of the body.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Another Update For You Guys
« on: July 13, 2017, 03:45:03 pm »
By the way, seeing as how you brought up the mind muscle connection earlier: have you noticed there to be particular ways of pushing with the tongue that the nervous system seems to crave?

At the moment for example, I'm mewing while pushing & rotating the skull forward and upward away from the neck in a way that tilts the posterior palate towards the posterior tongue. This feels really satisfying around soft palate, posterior tongue and anterior neck area, kind of like quenching thirst with a glass of cold water.

In this way, it's almost as if the body is actively encouraging me to guide my efforts towards the direction into which it wants the pressure to be generated, instead of forcing the conscious mind to make a guess. It becomes a matter of playing around with various ways of applying pressure and being ready to listen to what the nervous system prefers. Can you relate to what I'm trying to imply?

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Another Update For You Guys
« on: July 12, 2017, 12:28:50 pm »
Well of course, it's a muscle.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Bracesshop expanders?
« on: July 12, 2017, 12:02:59 pm »
That appliance seems very simple. I wonder how effective it would be to just bite on your thumb or a towel instead and go by feel.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Another Update For You Guys
« on: July 12, 2017, 11:51:53 am »
great progress dude!but i've heard that if you push hard the bones will resist the change.many recommend pushing more lightly with the tongue

I think hard short bursts of intense force are what the bones are built to resist, not static and sustained force. It's debatable whether the tongue is even capable of generating what could be viewed as hard pressure in this context. Just one finger can easily overpower the upwards motion of the tongue. Give it a try. Place your little finger on top of your medial / posterior tongue and try to keep the tongue away from the palate. It's not even hard.

Based on OP's results, I would be comfortable with suggesting to push as hard as you want.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Another Update For You Guys
« on: July 12, 2017, 03:27:07 am »
Someone became a man  ;D. Thanks for sharing.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Bracesshop expanders?
« on: July 11, 2017, 11:03:35 am »
Ah, yes, my bad.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Bracesshop expanders?
« on: July 11, 2017, 10:18:35 am »
I also few that this palate expander with 5 screws may be superior. I'm about to buy the one of them and also a lower jaw expander. But before expanding my palate, I want to find a way to make sure I won't have a longer face (because teeth tend to extrude when expanding). Do you guys know a way to intrude teeth? The post called "before and after" showed a case of a girl treated with miniscrews that worked perfectly, but as I am doing a "homemade" approach using a miniscrew is not an option (I will not put a screw to anchor on my palate by myself, of course). Maybe chewing mastic gum? I've heard invisalign can intrude teeth, but it's a different method. Maybe something that I can bite hard or something I can anchor above my head like a helmet? I plan to intrude a bit my upper teeth to revert my slightly gummy smile and my lower teeth which will make my chin look smaller. I guess I've found a final plan for me, just need to find this last solution. :)

If you want to retrude your teeth, just get traditional wire braces. I doubt that is what you really want, as doing so has only negative consequences. What's your situation? Do you have overbite or underbite? Deep bite? Crooked teeth or spaces between teeth?

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Tongue Posture
« on: July 11, 2017, 01:54:57 am »
It pushes the maxilla up and foward.

Yep. I don't think it's possible to push strictly up. The tongue does not need to mimic anything other than its natural function. It's the headgear that is fundamentally trying to mimic the tongue. Headgear and other appliances are just convenient ways to generate sustained force towards the palate when the tongue can't be relied on.

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