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IS the way you push your tongue up, by pressing the top of young tonge into that sort of hollow side , halfway in your mouth? Can you explain more in detail how you put it there and how you push

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Hi ThinkItChangeIt,

I think you're right when it comes to the correlation between the  the shape of the palate and the shape of the face. I think for this reason it is harder to push the tongue up for people who has  a maxilla that is down and back, because it feels the tounge does not naturally fit well there. I'm not sure which came first, as the chicken and the egg concept. Do people without the right palate, not push their tongue up or do people who do not put their tongue up not get the right palate? I think they're both possible, because one relates to the other. If you were born having the 'right' shape of your skull, then apparently then there had to be a reason why you stopped doing that, and if you were born with possibily something like a nutricient deficiency (like K2 deficiency) then possibly your basic shape was already not right to begin with, which then resulted slowly in an even more down and backwards placement of the maxilla. So basicly I think you're definately on to something there, which is worth investigating more! Good work!

Greets,

Ryan

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: My Self-NCR and Face Pulling Diary
« on: November 30, 2015, 01:03:45 am »
Hey DS_Slash,

I would *really* appreciate if you were able to message me the details you were talking about. It would really help me alot!

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Why hasn't Plato updated yet?
« on: November 30, 2015, 01:00:45 am »
I was wondering about this myself too! Did anyone hear from plato recently at all?

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And here are tylers comparison improvement pictures!

Greets,

Ryan


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Hi Guys,

Since Plato and Tyler are some of the people who had the most visible results, I thought it would be interesting to adapt (Photoshop) their before and after pictures to make it easier to compare their results (before and after)

To make their results more easily visible for the eye, I tried to adapt the things that made their before and after pictures different in their setup

I adapted:

- The colors
- The contrast
- The darkness
- Their hairstyles (give them the same style in before and after)
- The background
- Picture sizes, if needed
- Reduced the smile in the before picture of tyler

Total of 4 Pictures are included:              (EDIT: I put tylers pictures in the next reply since it's attachments are too big to fit in here)

- Plato before
- Plato after
- Tyler before
- Tyler after

I hope you guys like it

Greets!

Ryan

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: My Self-NCR and Face Pulling Diary
« on: November 07, 2015, 04:19:37 pm »
Hey  DS_Slash

I was wondering:

With just a general harley retainer , would you not have the problem that is not possible for your teeth and jaw to become wider? that is the whole thing I do not get. How can your teeth change from a narrow smile towards a 8 or 10 teeth smile, if the retainer has no ability to widen and keep fitting that way?

Germany is not such a problem, since I am from the netherlands, which is located next to it! Was it hard to find a dental lab that accepted this idea, or did you have to go to a few to find one that was willing to make you one?

Did you just get a harley retainer, or something that is more flexible in shape? That' s just one thing i do not get..How can your teeth become ' wider' if the retainer is made when your smile was narrow. Then lets say you do face pulling and your teeth

I attached a picture to explain my question better

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: My Self-NCR and Face Pulling Diary
« on: November 07, 2015, 03:17:39 pm »
Congrats DS slash! I've gotta say,  that your determination is admirable! So basically you've just been pulling the wrong way (partly). That sucks....But good you found out, so you and everyone who reads this can see by your example how important it is to push the force upwards too!. 

I think , maybe , who knows, even most force has to go upwards since face pulling in a way imitates the effect of having correct tongue posture. Although that force is longer and less intense, and face pulling shorter and more intense, they both add pressure to that area. (together with with the right swallowing techniques.. also force towards the roof of the mouth)

I can't wait to start with all this myself! 

Greets!

 Ryan

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Why this forum so dead?
« on: November 05, 2015, 01:59:28 pm »
I think a lot of people are skeptical about it, since it does not fit the sort of thinking a lot of people have . You need be able to think outside the box (or possibly just experience) in other fields, to come to the realization that a thing like this might work, and might be save or even good for you. I think it does not get a lot of attention because let's be honest; How on earth should you know a thing like this even exists? I can not even remember how I found out about it.  Only realizing other things are opposite of what I expected, made me open to an idea like this.

- Most people have never heard about it at all
- If general type of  people hear about it , it sounds too strange to be true

I'm really not sure if there are many people reading this, who do not post on the forum. If you are such a person, please let us know you're here too. It might make it easier to create a community

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: My Self-NCR and Face Pulling Diary
« on: November 04, 2015, 06:45:37 am »
DS_Slash,
Just as you had in the first place (i read your topic post about it) I'm having a hard time with the retainer part

Something I do not understand yet:

- The website from plato showed such a retainer with a part in the middel that could be expanded. It says this is not needed and then shows an item that seems to be a fixed shape palstic item (called mouthguard) that also should work for face pulling. THe thing i do not understand is how your palate can become wider, if you have a retainer (mouthguard) that is a fixed plastic shape. Then as soon as your palate will widen from the face pulling, it stops fitting , I would say? Could you fill me in about this

Should it look like this this http://jawpain-tmjtreatment.com/images/modified-palate-expander-1.jpg
or this look like this   http://jawpain-tmjtreatment.com/images/modified-palate-expander-1.jpg
- You suggested I would find a dental lab for this. Could you tell me the lab that you used, so I know they can make me something like this? Did you suggest to make it extra strong in that certain area that plato's site suggests? Did you tell me what you made it for?

Thanks alot!

Ryan

PS: I find it very intruiging also the body and mind are connected. I suffer from bowel issues, and I've been aware of this for a long time, as my mood goes up and down based on bowel function, so to say. If i ate something I had a hard time digesting, I would notice to get the emotion of nervousness over me . I think also the somatypes (ectomorph/mesomorph/endomorph) theorie is related to this..and the shapes of faces and personalies..very interesting. It would be cool to make a topic just about that!

I would greatly appreciate your help!

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: My Self-NCR and Face Pulling Diary
« on: October 30, 2015, 03:18:21 pm »
ok thanks for the reply . great you answered those questions too. I thought of them after I asked you. I think personality may even be harder to answer, as you are always trapped within yourself with your own perfection. If you become happier, you might think view things in your life as better, while actually just your own perception changed.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: My Self-NCR and Face Pulling Diary
« on: October 30, 2015, 01:14:44 pm »
Hey Ds Slash and others!,

I just signed up here, but i've been reading about NCR/face pulling for the last couple of weeks. Too bad your NCR is not working out! It does seem difficult to me, so I'm suprised others find it easy apparently. It's cool your face pulling does work though, in the softer approach that you later started.

I was wondering how you how you think the face pulling results are going (so not right now, but overal)?

- Do you notice it in your face alot? Has alot changed there? What did you see changing? Did your face get wider..more cheekbones...and did your brow change? For example, is it comparable to tyler's face pulling, or is the difference smaller (although apparently he did NCR too, although I'm not sure if he did that before or after the result pics) I take it you dont hafve pictures or do you ? (or maybe you can email me but if you dont wanna thats ok too!)
- I also wondered where you got your custom retainer. I'd like to get one too, but I'm not sure what the best way to start is. I can imagine someplace online is the easiest?

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