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trust me i understand where all of you are coming from. I haven't found any scientific articles proving my case but i haven't found anything disproving biokenesis either. But after scouring the internet and reading countless testimonials and joining Facebook groups i was convinced lol. If someone is faking this stuff they are going through a hell of a lot just to troll. This is the most convincing before and after picture i could find. This kid wanted to turn his eyes to silver grey and seems to have done it. It took a year. I don't have time to try and prove this to you guys but i just thought i should share for any desperate souls out there. As i said I've been using em and seen results. Subliminals seem to be more effective than frequencies but everyone is different.






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Gonna Start putting music out. Would love some support from y'all!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7DU8Z9Szpo

Also been listening to Subliminal Affirmations and Frequencies on Youtube and that stuff 100% works! I was listening to my the forward maxilla one for a couple days and watched my mouth come forward more, but then i realized my problem was with the middle third of my face not the lower third as i had an extremely low nasal bridge which gave me a concave profile. I started listening to that three days ago and my mid face is coming forward.  To those who say there's not any of scientific validation are completely wrong! everything you need to understand is here https://subliminalbiokinesis.wordpress.com/2017/02/20/faq-frequently-asked-questions-about-subliminals-frequencies-biokinesis/The audios i listen to are on a youtube channel called Matrixplay99, he uses something called silent subliminal affirmations GOOGLE IT.

We are way off in terms of trying to find a pattern for attractve faces. Its not all due to forward maxilla or wide arches. It literally a whole bunch of characteistics like, deep set eyes, high nose bridge, prominent cheek bones, slim face, long nose, plump lips. Its a bunch of different gene expressions that are mixed and matched and up for your selection.


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Stumbled across something called Subliminal Frequencies/ Binural Beats and Apparently it can be used to do ALL SORTS OF COOL things to the body.
Basically its two different frequencies going in left/right ear and the brain interperates the difference between the two frequencies (like the actual difference) as a new frequency. Neurons respond to this new frequency and the brain enters some meditative state with beta waves or someshit i dont know the details you can research it on your won. But ive been doin this for two days, and i can see/feel changes already. Go through a lot of these binural beats/subliminal frequency videos and just read the comments. It looks like this is working for a lot of people as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYni9Yq4FyQ

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: May 07, 2017, 11:43:24 am »
Actually there are before and after. .. and I'm really shocked
http://www.thecranencrp.com/
There is the girl with severe lack of midface.. and the pic on the right is crazingly different

I am so skeptical of this before and after photo. Looks like a double jaw surgery to me.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: May 02, 2017, 12:11:04 am »

Was there anything that helped you adjust to sleeping exclusively on your back, or was it just a situation of forcing yourself to do it until it was natural? I practically sleep on my face, and can see how it'd be a huge challenge to lay flat up.

So this is something i've been think a lot about. My first attempts at sleeping on my back failed and that was because my muscles were so used to curling up into a ball. So for those who feel major discomfort i suggest stretching hip flexors before bed. I went to the absolute extreme and released every single trigger point in my body. This was in hopes to fully lengthen any atrophied muscles to assuage back sleeping process. Man lemme tell you, i found trigger points ALL OVER especially in the quadriceps. There was a trigger point i found that swelled to the size of a golf ball. I even stopped goin to the gym because i didnt want to add any excess tension. Anyway the goal is to really loosen up hip flexors and get rid of any anteriror pelvic tilt. Or any pelvic tilt for that matter. I would also focus on pecotralis minor and major as that can greatly affect posture. Like seriously do not over look those. I would refer to this website to tackle the big six areas of your body. This website changed my life seriously. http://www.ptacademy.edu.au/ultimate-six-unlock-your-body/


I find sleep apnea and heavy snoring unavoidable when sleeping on back, even after using pillows to elevate the head and neck.


for those who literally cant sleep on their backs because of airways issues, continue mewing, doing oral posture exercises three times a day. We want that palate to widen and that lower jaw to come forward so that your tongue wont obstruct your airway. In the mean time you will have to elevate your upper body using a wedge pillow as that will alleviate those airway issues. 


It seems that even Native Americans - whose skulls neared perfection - didn't sleep without a pillow. Yet considering the evolution of the modern human it should be reasonable to assume that man spent majority of this lengthy period sleeping without a pillow, especially before becoming self-aware enough to start utilizing complex tools. All animals in the nature have their own proper growth ensuring natural sleeping positions that can be achieved without any extra props. It wouldn't make sense to believe that the modern human would've evolved to need a pillow for sleep either. Instead, it was probably something that was picked up over time to compensate for improper structure and form.

Yes exactly!

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: May 01, 2017, 11:17:22 am »
A modified retainer would be preferable, if that could be used instead of the ALF. I couldn't confirm it because there wasn't a whole lot of info, but I thought I heard that ALF requires those headgear posts (whatever the correct term is) bonded around your teeth?

The Crane employee I emailed didn't reply when I asked if there's any more patient before/after photos besides X-rays, which was very disappointing considering the "years of testing" their site proclaims.


Yea this is all you need for the crane. Also, strangely im not surprised there are no before and after pics. The crane needs to be worn at night and i know for a fact peoples sleep habits are poor already. The lady i talked to said one has to teach his or herself to sleep on their back for this treatment to work. for the average person who curls up into a ball at night, sleeping on their back will most likely be so uncomfortable that they say **** it and give up. Throw a crane in the mix and forget it. BUT my hypothesis is once someone fixes their head posture and can sleep on their back without ANY PILLOWS (which i have done), the crane should would perfectly. Anyone who has the crane, is this wishful thinking or does this sound practical?

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 30, 2017, 12:01:10 pm »
Let us know what he says. One ortho i called had different rates for different services. He said $625 for him to oversee the entire crane treatment, and another amount (he didnt say) for them to just provide it along with modified retainers.

Do you mean retainers related to the Crane treatment? I emailed the Crane people a few days ago asking if a retainer is used for pulling with the Crane and they said the suggested appliance was a reverse pull version of ALF. (I'm trying to attach a photo of it, but keep getting an error message)

yes i do mean retainers related the Cranee. they told me i could use a retainer with hooks attached to it. But yea the usually use ALF. really wanna see that phot. if your pulling image from a website then right click, copy image location, click insert image right below BOLD button, then paste image location in between prompt.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 29, 2017, 12:53:32 pm »

Lastly, what appliance do we think is more effective? CP got results using a bulky acrylic palate expander, and I already have one of those (but not yet a treatment plan), but I like the idea of the ALF because it's constant and can be paired with myofunctional therapy which is better in the long run.

I would probably go with the ALF so that you can practice proper oral posture while undergoing treatment. Although any expander is good just make sure you practice myofunctional therapy directly after treatment.

 
GuysI will propose to my ortho to use Crane on me, wish me good luck and if he does agree (and I do not live in any capital or big city) well it could be taken as living example of the fact that is not necessary to travel worldwide to have a Crane treatment done. Fly in America is like madness for someone who lives in any other part of the world. Tons of money..

Let us know what he says. One ortho i called had different rates for different services. He said $625 for him to oversee the entire crane treatment, and another amount (he didnt say) for them to just provide it along with modified retainers. 

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 27, 2017, 11:10:46 am »

Besides, not a single facepulling device is anchored on the mandible. Bringing maxilla forward is enough to "bring everything forward", which is why all devices focus on that. Mandible merely follows the upper jaw and remodels itself according to the needs of the bite.

What? the reverse pull headgear anchors on the mandible... And your right looking at the photo again i don't see any recession in mandible. BUT Below is a passage from the crane website,

"Unlike facemasks, this device revolutionizes forward pull by NOT pushing on the cranial bones, mandible or facial bones.  the CRANE delivers precise forces to quickly achieve amazing results without surgery. the CRANE is more effective than traditional methods of forward pull because it's not using the mandible (considered an anatomical joint) and facial bones (also subject to being pushed in or moved) to "move" the maxilla forward.  Question: Do current methods of reverse pull the maxilla and facial bones out OR are the mandible and facial bones actually being pushed in? "



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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 26, 2017, 09:39:40 pm »
Not sure if a I'm doing right.. but what I basically do is straighten the back of my neck (lifting up the back of the cranium basically) and the double chin and chin tuck comes naturally because of that..

that's exactly right. feel around for trigger points in the suboccipital muscles. Once you release those the cranium can fully rotate forward and the position will feel natural. But its also integral that you stop looking down at your phone for craning head forward to look at laptop.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 26, 2017, 09:32:59 pm »
I think this may work to my advantage as it means it wont be pulling my teeth forwards but my whole palate instead, and if the theories are correct and as the palate comes forward it expands, perhaps if my palate is pulled forward gradually it will expand also? Or maybe I can expand and pull at the same time gradually. My main worry is that my face is not symmetrical, as my palate is too small and is dropped and set back on one side. Any thoughts?

I would widen first then pull. although to be honest im not sure it matters which to do first. but i would use the crane since it doesn't anchor on mandible. int the picture above the girls mandible seems to have receded. The crane In theory it should be the perftect device for facepulling because it would bring everything forward.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 22, 2017, 06:06:15 pm »
Fair enough! So when i tried to fix my head posture i walked around with a forced chin tuck and was constantly stretching the back neck. After a couple days my front part of the neck got very tense, as was expected because i was forcing it. The body wasn't responding to a forced new posture.
It then became apparent to me that i had introduce proper function in order to get proper posture. The goal was tobring the phone up to my face instead of looking down at phone (head weighs 12 pounds so doing this strained neck muscles at the back), and when using laptop to never have the head leaning out forward past the shoulders. I was surprised how ingrained the bad habits were but they were easy to change, hard to remember.
After about 3 days of proper cell phone and laptop viewing function, something crazy happened. Huge trigger points (muscle knots) seem to appear out of nowhere at the base of my skull. Made sense. The proper function was lengthening once atrophied muscles and provided blood circulation to a region that had been strained my whole life. Got rid of the trigger points which caused the neck muscles at the back to full lengthen, which then caused my entire head to naturally rotate in the proper direction. I completely lost my jawline (which means natural chin tuck with no forcing) and the back of my head no longer had such a jagged hook.

Notice how Canelo Alverez (Left) has completely flat back of head while Amir Khan (right) has that jagged hook. The jagged hook means Amir Khans head has waaaay more upward rotation. AND CANELO KNOCKED HIM THE F*** OUT BTW. like it was bad.

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2. I see. Yet, assuming that you're right about palate being malleable enough to fully absorb the forces from the tongue, what makes you believe any kind of protraction device attached to the palate would circumverent this problem? Changing the medium through which the force against maxilla is delivered does not suddenly make the palate any less absorbing of those forces. Do I make sense?

YES this is the conundrum which perplexes me as well. Like assuming we are anchoring the retainer at the back teeth, won't that move teeth and not maxilla? Or maybe the maxilla as a whole i don't know!

Doesn't this look like it would move the maxilla forward, in a different way than how the tongue simply growths the roof the of the mouth?


Also
This guy at facepulling.com tried to address the issue by making this type of oral appliance.

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Cranial Restructuring / Re: Ineresting Pictures
« on: April 22, 2017, 12:38:59 pm »
. about the Crane I always saw how the pulling seems very downward, it could be a risk of lengthening the face more. It should be adjusted to push at least front forward.

I'm glad you brought this up up. I believe that pulling downward is exactly what you want because if you have proper head posture you'll notice that your face is angled more towards the floor that straight ahead. Your tongue will act as the upward force balancing everything out. Was it you who posted about head posture? Let me know if your still confused about it because I think its very important and veeeery cool when you figure it out.


Btw I still did not understand where the Crane is performed because in the web I didn't find any ortho who utilizes it.
And.. another thing I think I understood.. I think that to use the crane one must have the maxilla centred... not shifted to the left/right, not asymmetrically inclined.. after someone works in symmetry and the skull is symmetrical but still recessed then he could use the Crane.

They have a website where they list practitioner. http://www.thecranencrp.com/listofpractitioners.html And yes i agree many believe widening and centering is best before pulling.

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1. In order to bring the mandible forward, the maxilla has to come forward too, because the location of the bite is directly determined by the position of the upper jaw / maxilla and the teeth attached to it.

2. The act of palatal expansion itself expands the maxilla forward through the suture, which makes your statement about the tongue being able to expand the palate but not induce forward growth contradictory.

1. I'm proposing that the palate and the maxilla are two separate entities; the palate simply being the roof of the mouth, and the maxilla being the mid face bone that is much less affected by palatal expansion than we think. So when lower jaw has come forward its because the palate has grown, but not the maxilla.


2. I do not think that palatal expansion causes forward growth through any suture because I feel the palate is too impressionable, too malleable. I think the palate absorbs all tongue forces, leaving none for the maxilla as a whole. Which is why i feel a protraction device is necessary because it can induce that extra long term force that doesn't get absorbed by the palate.





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