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General Discussion => Cranial Restructuring => Topic started by: biggiesmokes on May 09, 2014, 03:01:20 am

Title: Bottom teeth position
Post by: biggiesmokes on May 09, 2014, 03:01:20 am
New member here. Hi!

Ill get right to it: I'm fairly new to all this ncr and stuff, but i have been giving the balloon therapy a shot with some pretty good results. My right side of my face is deficient, so ive been ballooning only that side. Its most definitely working as my eyes are becoming more even and the right side is slowing expanding and reaching symmetry with its opposite.

The only concern is that my top and bottom sets of teeth don't meet up like they used to, mainly the molars. My maxilla has expanded so much laterally that it seems my mandible is trying to catch up but is not succeeding. If i use my tongue to feel the back molars, top and bottom, the last molar of my maxilla is obviously jutted farther out laterally then the lower one. Its as if the Maxilla row of teeth is expanding to form a "U", but the lower row of mandible teeth is closer to a "V". Hope that gives you a good enough visual.

Has anyone else experienced this?
Is this partially because I have treated one side of my face only?
Is this NCR thing completely mechanical, meaning after you treat and you hear and feel expansion thats the limit for your face for that treatment, OR does your face continue to expand for some time after?

Ill probably think of more questions, but i wont bombard you cool people with more. I'd also like to thank Ben and give him a internet high five for putting the forum together and also to all the beautiful people on here who have shared their stories that have given me the know how and inspiration to improve on myself. Soon ill put pictures up to detail this process, to reciprocate.

Thanks in advance,

Beau
Title: Re: Bottom teeth position
Post by: bstratt25 on May 18, 2014, 10:42:48 am
Hey Beau no problem, glad I started this forum. Thanks for the compliments.

I don't think the problem is because you've only targeted one side of your face, and I've heard of a couple other people with those issues in the beginning but it seemed to resolve itself - however people drop out of contact so often that I'm not sure, they never did a year-later follow up or anything. The only way the mandible/lower teeth change position as far as I can imagine is through changes to the TMJ. You might not have gotten much change there yet. It would be good to see an NCR doctor and ask them, they've seen people change in more detail than me.

"Is this NCR thing completely mechanical, meaning after you treat and you hear and feel expansion thats the limit for your face for that treatment, OR does your face continue to expand for some time after"

I used to ask my doctors this. What I've figured out is the visible results are instantaneous after inflating, but then the body rebuilds the muscles, connective tissue, ligaments, skin and other bits to the new configuration of the bones.
Title: Re: Bottom teeth position
Post by: Knoppe on May 24, 2014, 02:29:44 am
What Ben said. Also, I'd consider the angle of the teeth.

Teeth move and if your face is underdeveloped, the teeth will naturally angle "wrong". Meaning that you'll chew them inwards/outwards depending on the rest of the face (mandible, maxilla etc).

So. If it doesn't resolve on it's own when the face aligns. I'd check with a functional orthodontis.

I'm a huge proponent of using all methods to battle underdeveloped faces/jaws.


Ben: Did you have more of a head problem than jaw problem? (If you get what I mean)
I'm thinking that the trauma you sustained from the car accident had an impact to your head (no pun intended) more than on your teeth/face?

I'm asking because I'm starting to think that there are two major groups of patients.

1) Head trauma
2) Underdeveloped face/collapsed dental arches/mutilation from "traditional orthodontics"

I'm definatly in the second category. For me, orthodontics and face pulling/NCR is needed since my teeth where messed up (narrow arches, bad angle) but for some, NCR only seems to be enough. The ALF and bracers have helped quite a bit so far but my first treatment with Ian produced INSANE results in terms of posture and clarity. None of the treatments by themselves are the answer to my case.

I'm also a big proponent of getting assessed by a pro.
Title: Re: Bottom teeth position
Post by: bstratt25 on June 16, 2014, 07:11:56 am
Hey Knoppe,

I actually had both but about 80-90% of my problem was caused by head trauma.

My wisdom teeth were extracted and my dental arches were collapsed but it wasn't extreme

I agree about those categories, and I don't think people whose problems are caused by "Underdeveloped face/collapsed dental arches/mutilation from "traditional orthodontics" respond as well as head trauma people to NCR/ballooning.
Title: Re: Bottom teeth position
Post by: Knoppe on June 18, 2014, 05:54:08 am
Ah ok so your teeth/jaw problems resolved when you sorted the cranial stuff out?

Cool. I've seen some comments regarding the teeth and figured there's a need to clarify the different kinds of structural problems one might have. My face is collapsed because of poor nutrition and mouth breathin (Dr.Mew "stuff") which requires a whole different approach. Just so that people get a feel for what the possible remedies are.

/Knoppe

Hey Knoppe,

I actually had both but about 80-90% of my problem was caused by head trauma.

My wisdom teeth were extracted and my dental arches were collapsed but it wasn't extreme

I agree about those categories, and I don't think people whose problems are caused by "Underdeveloped face/collapsed dental arches/mutilation from "traditional orthodontics" respond as well as head trauma people to NCR/ballooning.