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Title: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 13, 2012, 10:36:40 pm
Hi everyone,

You can let us know a little bit about you in this thread. Feel free to share whatever you'd like, don't be afraid to express yourself! Jump in, this is a place for collaboration and community.

Ben
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: FrOmMaRs on June 14, 2012, 01:53:15 pm
Hi Kabaraz,

I am from NC, USA. I first saw your post on PA forums and thats how I went to your website. Absolutely great information that you have there.
From there I came to know about Orgonite - It get me so much interested in the stuff.
Also, your recipes for toothpaste is great as well. Trying different things now.

I so wanted to send you email from there, I want to know more about facial symmetry and all. I know you have listed some devices which can help but without any instructions or help, I won't be able to use them.
Another thing is : I don't have any issues with my jaw/teeth - so I can certainly live without doing this -  but just was curious if that can do me any good.
thanks for all your good work.
see you around here
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 14, 2012, 03:23:15 pm
Great, thanks for the first post!  ;D Orgonite is an awesome invention isn't it?  Have you been buying orgonite or making your own and have you noticed any effects from it so far?

By the way, for information about the therapy please email me at bstratt25@gmail.com. I'll tell you everything you'll need to know, and probably more. haha.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: FrOmMaRs on June 14, 2012, 07:06:46 pm
Hi Brother,

I did no yet made any orgonite myself - I bought couple from Ebay --  and I bought all the stuff to make orgonite myself- copper wire--metal scraps--molds--polyester fiber etc.
just been so busy lately -- will let you know.

I can't say if I noticed much difference from the orgonite that I bought from ebay - when I make my own- will let you know.

I will definitely send you email tomorrow sometime on the facial symmetry.

Absolutely appreciate your hard work on awakening others...
I will do my best to support you.

thanks
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 15, 2012, 08:43:16 am
Thanks mars, appreciate the kind words

Yeah, the unfortunate part about orgonite is that some people don't construct it correctly, so some devices do not work, and much of the evidence for its benefits is anecdotal. Still, obviously a very large number of people, like myself, feel and see it working and based on my experience with it I definitely want it on my site. The effects on chemtrails ("chembusting"/"cloudbusting") alone is fascinating and makes it worthy of mention. I wear a pendant 24/7, and when I have been without it for a significant period of time I notice how drained and imbalanced I become.  Have you seen any Kirlian photography using orgonite? Do you know where to buy pine tar resin? I've heard it increases the effect (I cannot verify or authenticate this)

Wish you luck, of course you can always email me.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: jamseyp5 on June 17, 2012, 11:09:25 am
Hi I'm James from NE England, I saw some of your post on the DI Site and thought I'd come along and have a look, keep up the good work mate.

I'm going to try your shampoo treatment for hairgrowth as I'm thinning on top and recently stopped it by using coconut oil, but need to try and regrow some!

James
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 17, 2012, 12:01:52 pm
Thanks, nice to see you on the forum James!

Yep the coconut oil helps to stop the process by giving the scalp the vitamins and minerals it needs, but it doesn't actually stimulate new growth like these herbs do.

My brother's progress has really been speeding up since he added the shampoo in.  He was only taking the supplement before. I don't see any reason why you can't also use the paste from her herbs and apply this to the affected area after a shower (the stuff you have after making the tea and adding to the shampoo), though he isn't doing it and I don't think it's necessary.

We'll be posting his pictures in the next week or so.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: FrOmMaRs on June 17, 2012, 07:09:58 pm
Have you seen any Kirlian photography using orgonite? Do you know where to buy pine tar resin? I've heard it increases the effect (I cannot verify or authenticate this)

Wish you luck, of course you can always email me.

Hi there,
I have read about this kirlian photography but not done it myself. I am just not getting the time to make Orgonite myself although I have all the material available with me. Will let you know and also share some pictures here when I make one.
About the resin - I read that Polyester resin is the best one  and I bought the one by 3M -  its called 3M Bondo Fiberglass Resin  and I bought it from the automotive store. I tried Lowes and HomeDepot - they do carry 3M Fiberglass resin but its not polyester. It should say 3M Bondo Fiberglass resin.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: FrOmMaRs on June 17, 2012, 07:12:11 pm
Thanks, nice to see you on the forum James!

Yep the coconut oil helps to stop the process by giving the scalp the vitamins and minerals it needs, but it doesn't actually stimulate new growth like these herbs do.

My brother's progress has really been speeding up since he added the shampoo in.  He was only taking the supplement before. I don't see any reason why you can't also use the paste from her herbs and apply this to the affected area after a shower (the stuff you have after making the tea and adding to the shampoo), though he isn't doing it and I don't think it's necessary.

We'll be posting his pictures in the next week or so.


Hey man - its difficult to get Compfrey and Nettles leaves --  Rosemary is easy to get.
Do you know any place from where I can get these. I know these are available on amazon - but kinda expensive with shipping and all.
Let me know.

thanks
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: jamseyp5 on June 18, 2012, 09:33:35 am
Thanks, nice to see you on the forum James!

Yep the coconut oil helps to stop the process by giving the scalp the vitamins and minerals it needs, but it doesn't actually stimulate new growth like these herbs do.

My brother's progress has really been speeding up since he added the shampoo in.  He was only taking the supplement before. I don't see any reason why you can't also use the paste from her herbs and apply this to the affected area after a shower (the stuff you have after making the tea and adding to the shampoo), though he isn't doing it and I don't think it's necessary.

We'll be posting his pictures in the next week or so.


Hey man - its difficult to get Compfrey and Nettles leaves --  Rosemary is easy to get.
Do you know any place from where I can get these. I know these are available on amazon - but kinda expensive with shipping and all.
Let me know.

thanks

Hi I'm in England but I'm getting them off Ebay, they just cost a couple of pounds
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 18, 2012, 09:55:25 am
Yeah if you don't have comfrey or nettles growing near where you live - go to a health food store, a food cooperative or something like that.  They sell it in bulk, comfrey usually around 20-25$ per pound, but you can easily skate by with 3-6oz of it.  Same thing with nettles.

The quantities on amazon are very high but there are no smaller quantities available at a decent price.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: FrOmMaRs on June 19, 2012, 05:35:28 pm
Yeah if you don't have comfrey or nettles growing near where you live - go to a health food store, a food cooperative or something like that.  They sell it in bulk, comfrey usually around 20-25$ per pound, but you can easily skate by with 3-6oz of it.  Same thing with nettles.

The quantities on amazon are very high but there are no smaller quantities available at a decent price.

Hey Guys,
Yesterday I ordered Comfrey and Nettle leaf powder from a website  - its http://www.bulkherbstore.com/
I got 8 oz each -  for $8/each  and shipping was around $7  --  so 8oz of each with total cost of  $22 ... pretty good...   what do you say ??

I cannot wait to try this
I also ordered the Dr. Woods Black Soap 32 Oz  from amazon.... so its coming soon too.

Is there any ratio that I should mix in ?   

I started applying  a mixture of coconut oil + honey + avocado

Any other recipe to re-grow hair ??

Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 20, 2012, 08:55:23 am
Do you have fresh or dried rosemary as well? It's very important to include it

That sounds like a pretty good deal :)   And a more reasonable quantity.  Sometimes amazon doesn't have the cheapest or most convenient items but what  can I do.

The very most you could reasonably do, as far as I'm concerned, is apply coconut oil, avocado and honey daily prior to shower along with shampooing with this, and after the showering applying a a small amount of the pure concentrated herbal liquid and coconut oil to your scalp,  then supplementing with sacred hair growth.  Like I said on the site I would start with just the cheapest, easiest method then, if you are unsuccessful to begin including the more pricey techniques (supplement).  I'd just cut off slices of an avocado and store it in the refrigerator so you don't go through a lot of them. 




Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: FrOmMaRs on June 21, 2012, 09:11:49 am
Do you have fresh or dried rosemary as well? It's very important to include it

The very most you could reasonably do, as far as I'm concerned, is apply coconut oil, avocado and honey daily prior to shower along with shampooing with this, and after the showering applying a a small amount of the pure concentrated herbal liquid and coconut oil to your scalp,  then supplementing with sacred hair growth.  Like I said on the site I would start with just the cheapest, easiest method then, if you are unsuccessful to begin including the more pricey techniques (supplement).  I'd just cut off slices of an avocado and store it in the refrigerator so you don't go through a lot of them. 

Yes I bought the rosemary plant  and its going great.... so I will make a paste using the ratios you mentioned on your website.

Little confused here -- > above you said "apply coconut oil, avocado and honey daily prior to shower along with shampooing with this, and after the showering applying a a small amount of the pure concentrated herbal liquid and coconut oil to your scalp"[/color]

After shower -- apply small amount of the pure concentrated herbal liquid ??     what is this ??     is it the same mixture prepared earlier with 3 herbs and Dr Woods black soap??
or is it something different
if its the same... is it ok to apply after the shower also ??  I mean won't it make foam on your hair ?
Clarify please

thanks
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on June 21, 2012, 09:20:02 am
Well, you know how it's 2:1 water to herb.  So let's say you steep 4oz of the nettles, rosemary and comfrey in water, you'll have 8oz of water.  You can pour 6oz of that into the shampoo and with the other 2oz you can keep it in a sealed jar in the fridge and apply it to your scalp after the shower.

You can apply coconut oil after the shower to the affected area as well but the honey/avocado would be gross to have sitting around in your hair all day, so I recommend it beforehand.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: nakedeye on June 26, 2012, 06:16:34 am
Hi! I cannot wait to try some of those natural herbs for hair. 

I wish I had heard of NCR 5 years ago when I had 2 premolars and wisdom teeth extracted followed by 5 years of ortho work.

I had a major spiritual wake up call in 2005 when I became chronically ill with Lyme infection and realized that no one in the main stream was really capable of helping me recover. Applied Kinesiology literally saved my life that year... Then the fun started I become a avid follower of Hulda Clarke and spent 2 years in **** detox mode, tried liver cleanses, herbal treatments, H2O2 therapy, ORMUS, electronic blood zapping, colonics, mega vitamin therapy, urine as medicine you name it, if it helped I tried it. It has ALL helped! So glad to meet more people online who know how to put their health into their own hands and be responsible for it.

Now my health is good again I see my skeletal problems are the last roadblock to fully living my life again, there are huge gains to be made via this therapy.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Lex on July 07, 2012, 06:49:48 am
Hi everybody,

I would like to introduce myself and to thank the author for such a great web site.  Your nicely summarizes some great information, much of which I have never seen before.  I plan to try the toothpaste soon, fermentation, as well as improving my eyesight.  The cranial restructuring information is very interesting.   

I am a middle age male living in Kentucky with my family.  I have put forth considerable effort to educate my oldest son to all the lies that are perpetuated on society.  I have been watching the chemtrails for years.  Who ever is doing it isn't nearly as blatant about the spraying as they used to be.  I picked up a couple of orgonite pendants a couple of years ago and did observed some effects.  I can not feel any kind of energy coming from them and did not pursue orgonite further until reading your website.  I recently got a couple from ebay and observed a slight change in attitude in the office in which I work.

We hope to move to a more rural setting while remaining close enough to the city to satisfy my urbanized wife and children.  To improve our nutrition and to save genetic diversity we started a garden this year and picked up four domesticated ducks for egg production.  With the heat wave the garden didn't turn out so good, but the ducks are doing great and should be producing soon.  They are also more interesting to watch that tv.

When the Earthing book came out I picked it up.  The book was great in that the authors provided visual evidence to prove their points, something most new agey style books doesn't do.  And when I do it and focus my mind I can feel sensations coming from the earth in my feet. 

My thanks to the author for a concise and informative web site.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on July 09, 2012, 12:00:43 pm
Hey Lex,

Welcome to the forum!

Unfortunately some of the best information is hidden and not discussed very openly.  All boils down to financial incentive...  your disease and malfunction is everyone else's profit. Glad I can do my part to twist this around and make all my financial incentives to help people and heal people as much as possible. Not at all lucrative so far, lol, but I'll keep trying.

Yes the Earthing book is really great.. I know it's readable online and I wish I could share that with people for free, but it would be at the expense of the author I suppose.

Good luck and feel free to post here - I'd love to see an active community develop here.


Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Bill on July 11, 2012, 09:41:38 am
Hi my name is Bilal and I'm from France. I discovered your website and forum through "Vigilant Citizen" because I really interested in public misinformation, lies, mind control, secret society and all that is rotten in our beautiful world. And I'm also trying to speak about these touchy subjects with my family and some of them seem to be convinced too that something is off in our modern society.

I tried your black soap + rosemary shampoo with great results  ;) and I think I'm gonna try your other recipes as soon as I can. :)
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: jamseyp5 on July 11, 2012, 12:23:03 pm
Hi Bilal I love the vigilant citizen website too!

Welcome to the site and hope to hear more about your results with the shampoo.

Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Bill on July 11, 2012, 12:45:53 pm
I just posted an epic account of my shampoo "experience"!  ;D
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Living99 on July 17, 2012, 10:31:23 am
Greetings to you all.  Saw a link from the DI site and since I am overwhelmingly in love with natural health, ways of healing and being the best I can be I thought to have a look in.  I am from the UK, where they skies are grey ... almost rhymes. 

Off to work now so will return and hopefully have some healthy interaction ;D



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Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on July 17, 2012, 07:28:42 pm
hahaha, welcome you two.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bertramlevaughn on December 03, 2012, 02:46:26 pm
Hey my name is Bert, I'm from the UK and I found out this website by initially researching on closing the gaps in my teeth( basically through research I came from that to functional orthodontist to face pulling device to this site!) I'm wondering how much of an effect NCR would have on my facial aesthetics and cranial shape. I definitely do not have the money to spend on qualified practitioners so maybe self treating is going to be my option for now.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Bill on December 04, 2012, 01:43:03 am
Welcome!  :)

I hope you'll find the solution you're looking for here.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bertramlevaughn on December 04, 2012, 08:46:10 am
I'm not really looking for a solution as I have never had any extractions done or any accidents to my head. Rather I'm looking for enhancements. How close to my genetic potential can I get! my mom told me when I was really young I suffered from mumps so I am not sure how much of an effect that had on me but in any case I'll be sure to see what other people are doing for their development.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Bill on December 07, 2012, 02:09:01 am
Ok. Good luck with that. There's a lot of info on the website to "enhance" yourself!  :)
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: cjfehr84 on January 09, 2013, 04:50:39 pm
Hi everyone!

Excited to have found this site, I've been doing research on many of these subjects for a few years and it's nice to find a community interested in the same things. Definitely going to try the organite, ncr, and shampoo!

I also am a barefoot runner, and have had lots of positive experiences with earthing.  Let me know if anyone is interested in learning more about barefoot/minimalist lifestyle - I can recommend some good books!
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on January 13, 2013, 03:16:01 pm
Welcome guys!

I hope people continue to share and use this forum, even if I'm not always involved in it! Let me know if you need something, just email me.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Tyler on March 14, 2013, 07:09:43 am
Hi, everyone!

My name's Tyler, and I'm from the Eastern region of Canada. I'm very excited to have learned so many wonderful steps that I can take to take charge of optimizing my health, and Ben's work here will no doubt aid me in my journey to perfect optimization!

I am not registered for post-secondary school yet, but I'm going to be attending college in September. My goal is to one day open my own health supplement store, where I can sell only the health products that fit within the "Perfect" diet, in addition to offering my services as a combination health coach / NCR practitioner. I want to discover a method of optimizing the health of others that is very cheap, if not free, and finance my work as a healer with an additional source of income if I need to; after all, the health and prosperity of our species and planet is way more important than money, wouldn't you agree? There are times when I feel that we are the pioneers of a new "free love" movement, however instead of being associated with whining passivity, this time it is a "free love" movement that is associated with productivity in the face of life's challenges!

As an interesting factoid, the "peace" symbol of the Hippie Movement is based on the Death Rune, which seems to mirror the passive attitude and behaviour of peace demonstrators of that era. In fact, the symbol was designed with that very symbol of defeat in mind! Check it out sometime - and then let's create all be part of an improved movement using the Life Rune (which looks a lot like a tree or a man lifting his arms up confidently, IMHO, instead of a guy shrugging his shoulders) instead!

I attached a picture of myself to show you guys what I look like. I've performed balloon therapy on myself a few times, in addition to having spent over a month using a near-infrared sauna, so my skin is much healthier now than it was three months ago. Sadly, I did not take pictures when I started to document my progress, but I'll keep you guys updated as I go along!

I'm so happy to meet all of you, and Ben, I don't think you could have chosen a better name for your web site! I still do not know how to vocalize it in more elegant terms, but I know that "breaking out of the matrix" has been my life's singular mission as soon as I became capable of comprehending the bizarre world we live in today!
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Tyler on March 14, 2013, 07:14:29 am
I noticed a neat coincidence the other day, while reflecting on proper bone-jaw development.

They are called "wisdom" teeth, right? How would you measure an individual's level of wisdom, if not by looking at their bone-jaw development to gauge that they have had the insight and proper spirit lessons to feed their bodies properly?

In other words, it would seem to me that you need to be wise in order for "wisdom teeth" to fit properly in your skull! ;D
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MRossi on April 08, 2013, 01:54:36 pm
Hello everybody, I'm new here.
I'm happy to join this community, I'm Daniel (24) from Italy.
I've already contacted Ben and I can't wait to begin cranial restructuring.
I have been suffering since EVER for headaches (right side of my head), TMJ (right side), poor breathing (right side nostril) and clogged eustachian tube (guess which side).
I have already bought everything is needed, but the finger cots; they don't sell RITE AID assorted finger cots here and I've searched everywhere on Internet but noone ships them internationally (neither eBay, Amazon, etc...).
So I'm wondering if anyone could help me out to get them shipped here and I will pay you the way you prefer (Paypal, bank wire, cash pick-up...).
I want to buy 3 packs of them.
Please someone let me know if he/she is willing to help me out with this, thanks in advance!!!
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: edae53@yahoo.com on April 10, 2013, 02:37:05 pm
Hi, I found this site looking for the NCR treatment for my wife.  She has an unexplained neurological disorder, but they are leaning toward Primary Lateral Sclerosis.  If someone can send me the info on how to perform that we would be grateful.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MRossi on April 10, 2013, 04:09:33 pm
Hi edae53, besides NCR, I think you may find the informations on this website to be helpful for your wife (click the english flag for english language) http://www.occlusionegravita.it/.
They give an idea of what may be causing the "lateral sclerosis" (besides many other symptoms) and they describe how it might be addressed.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: todd on August 29, 2013, 09:36:16 am
Hi everybody
Well, I've finally decided to give this ncr stuff a try
Let's see what happens. I ordered the cots and sphygmo bulb and all the rest. Kind of nervous, to tell you the truth. But after living with a pressure in my head for years, well, I figured it's time to do something about it. I don't want to spend thousands visiting a practitioner, as I'm sure this can be equally effective. Ben talks about it being 'gentler,' so that's my only comfort.
Anyway, great website, looks good. I was into the orgonite years ago... used to post on etheric warriors, remember that place? I remember messiahmews from there. We've been around a little, haven't we?

Anyway....  let's see what happens. Any advice for someone just building up the courage to shove a balloon in his nose and inflate it... well, I'm all ears (and nose).
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: todd on August 30, 2013, 07:50:28 am
Hi,
So, I'm not sure if anyone still even comes here.
But I tried it last night.
And my question is, how do I know if I'm back far enough. Ben said he thought he was doing it correctly at first but it turns out it was just the turbinates.
I feel like that's what I'm doing, because it feels like a lot of pressure behind the eye, or something. Anyway, there was some gentle cracking and a feeling of more space, or more clarity in the head. I did this at night and had trouble falling asleep because of a really high energy after, like coffee or something. I guess the advice to not do it at night makes sense.
Anyway I feel like I might have got 10% of the potential benefit.

Anyway, since I'm not sure if this board is active I guess I'll just send an e-mail to Ben.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Tyler on August 30, 2013, 08:44:11 am
-------- The truth is, I am not qualified to give advice, so I'm taking down my posts. I don't want to be the cause of some people possibly harming themselves on account of my advice-giving when I'm not qualified.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: todd on September 03, 2013, 03:16:24 pm
Hey Tyler,
Thanks for the reply.
I was going to ask,  How do you know which of the turbinates you are in?  For example, I'm pretty sure I can tell the top from the bottom, but not so sure about the middle one. Is it supposed to feel different?
What if you only inflated the bottom turbinates (because the other ones felt "weird" for example). Since it's all inflating the same "space behind the turbinates," would it matter how you accessed that space?

Thanks,
Best Regards

Todd

( I tried again last night, and I heard some cracking. But I feel like I should maybe be pumping more air, but it gets to the point where I feel a lot of pressure and I'm afraid I might burst some blood vessel behind the eye and go blind. Lol.)

I did take a picture before so if there are some incredible changes I can post. I may become a male model, yet.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Tyler on September 03, 2013, 09:00:55 pm
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Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: todd on September 08, 2013, 08:08:45 pm
Hey Tyler
Thanks for the reply.
Well, I think I got it to work a little bit tonight. I've tried about 5 times. I have found that on the right side before it felt like a strange pressure that made me want to not pump any more air, as though I would burst a vessel. Here's what I did. When I went into a higher turbinate (not sure if it was middle or upper, I can't really tell yet), and I made sure it was deep in where there could be no doubt I was in the open space behind the turbinate, I inflated until I got that uncomfortable pressure behind the eye and in the nose. What I had to do was relax my body, sort of, and let it sit there for a few seconds, and then there was this very strange release sensation where I felt a blood vessel or something pumping, but a definite change in sensation, as of movement. So I held it there, and pushed myself a little more by pumping more air, and next thing I know, it happened again. I felt like I was onto something so just allowed my body to relax while pushing air in. There were subtle "click" noises but no definitive "pop" yet.
It does feel like I made some little bit of progress, though, so thanks for everyones support. It kinda feels weird like getting hit in the nose, the cartilage is a little sensitive, but I cannot deny a different sensation in the head of clarity and space. You know, I thought this was kind of funny, I guess I didn't realize just how much air I had in the balloon, because when I twisted the release valve to let out the air, I was almost disappointed by the sensation of "returning to normal" and losing all that air :)))
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Gaia on September 23, 2013, 01:27:09 pm
This seems to have turned into a thread about NCR rather than an introduction thread. Maybe a moderator wants to split the topic? It's getting quite interesting. ;)

Anyway, I'm just going to share some of my experiences lately with the balloon. Here's what I did to finally get the balloon to inflate in my throat as opposed to the turbinate. I have no idea if this is dangerous or anything, just thought I should share.

First of all I numbed the inside and back of my nostril with Xylocain. Otherwise my body just resisted the balloon and the q tip because of the pain. I let it sit for five minutes.

I then inflated with the q tip on top of the finger cot and I sort of pushed down on the cot with the q tip to lead it into place. The whole thing, bulb and all, was angled downward. I tried not to hold my head downward, even if this was what I wanted to do instinctively. Instead I tilted it slightly upward.

Now, what I don't get is, if I inflate the balloon into my throat with about four pumps, all I feel is that it's going to gag me. No crack or pop or anything. Does this mean it's still helping? Or should I continue pumping the balloon into my throat?

Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Tyler on September 23, 2013, 03:35:35 pm
No, you don't want to inflate the balloon down into your throat because it will close off your windpipe.

Do you know what size balloon you are using? Chances are you need a smaller balloon in order to accommodate the size of your skull. You can also try your fortune by tying the balloon off closer to the tip, and see if that yields a better fit. When you get the right location, you will feel some resistance as you pump air into the balloon, and you may feel mild discomfort. Also, because your skull plates may be locked up quite severely as is apparently the case with the majority of people, do not feel discouraged if it takes many tries to get any sensation of progress. It took me about 10 attempts to hear a tiny cracking noise around my ears, although depending on your individual circumstances it might take you more or less.

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MUCH LATER POST: Holy crap! I was freaking nuts when I wrote this ****!! Ok, seriously - it's not sensible I don't think to inflate a balloon in our skulls! Maybe having a 'professional do it' could be less risky, but I actually ended up nearly killing myself with this crap! I am sick knowing that I got so hoodwinked by this NCR stuff. I am not saying it doesn't work, I have no clue if it works. But, it is certainly possible that it could kill somebody!
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Gaia on September 25, 2013, 06:10:48 am
Ok, so it shouldn't be felt in the throat at all? I thought Ben said that's the only way it can go and it feels like you need to cough? I guess it should expand further back then, just not down?
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Tyler on September 25, 2013, 06:21:38 am
That's right.

Another trick you can use to help the process along is to use your tongue to block your throat as best as you can while you are inflating the balloon. Hold it up against the top of your mouth so that it restricts the ability of the balloon to inflate downwards while you inflate. Chances are the balloon will try to inflate down still if it is not a great fit, so inflating slowly helps to control the amount of pressure.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MessiahMews on September 28, 2013, 11:57:47 pm
Hi everybody
Well, I've finally decided to give this ncr stuff a try
Let's see what happens. I ordered the cots and sphygmo bulb and all the rest. Kind of nervous, to tell you the truth. But after living with a pressure in my head for years, well, I figured it's time to do something about it. I don't want to spend thousands visiting a practitioner, as I'm sure this can be equally effective. Ben talks about it being 'gentler,' so that's my only comfort.
Anyway, great website, looks good. I was into the orgonite years ago... used to post on etheric warriors, remember that place? I remember messiahmews from there. We've been around a little, haven't we?

Anyway....  let's see what happens. Any advice for someone just building up the courage to shove a balloon in his nose and inflate it... well, I'm all ears (and nose).

Hey Todd, I'm just now seeing this.  Sorry I didn't see this sooner.  Welcome to the forum here!  It's not as busy as other forums. 

I've had great success with NCR.   I don't do it myself, as I want to be taught firsthand in person by someone.  I'll probably take the ABC version of it by Jesse Jutkovitz.  He calls it endonasal cranial correction (ECC).  i can tell you one thing, these guys in here are very brave.

I had the left sided headaches (occipital neuralgia) and I still have unresolved stress that needs to be released.

I had my 6th NCR session with Dr. Hillary Lampers, ND of Northwest Neurocranial Medicine, LLC aka Sky Valley Healing Arts.  http://www.nwncr.com/

A couple of months ago, I added the ABC (Advanced Biostructural Correction), developed by Jesse Jutkovitz, D.C.

The chiropractor that does mine said that Jesse will teach anyone, and he showed my husband and I both how to do the 1st Rib Maneuver.   So in between each ABC session, we do the 1st Rib at home.  We also did it before my NCR over a month ago.

I have most of my before and after pics in the Therapies part of this forum.

What was your username on EW?   Do you also remember Cbswork on there?
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: trancezend11 on October 30, 2013, 04:55:39 pm
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Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rozelynroux on January 31, 2014, 10:59:37 pm
Hey guys! My name is Rozelyn. I've had my eyes glued to this forum for the last few hours! It just kept getting better and better. First of all, the aspirations for facial symmetry I can totally relate to. Then I saw a few of you referencing the golden mean ratio mask. And I thought I was the only one obsessed with lining up to that thing! ;) another plus is that you guys are into holistic health. *faints* did I just find my soul tribe?

Anyway, a little about me.. I'm currently nineteen, focusing on sharing my revelations with mankind via YouTube videos, and attempting to sculpt my body to perfection. Sounds a bit vain! I just know beauty is a reflection of health, and being in optimal health is my goal.

I grew up on the standard American diet (SAD). Needless to say it made me super sad. I was overweight, unhealthy, and stuck with a permafrown on my face. *sigh* that's all behind me now. Thanks to this forum I haven't had to resort to plastic surgery. I had hesitations about doing so due to it being unnatural. I think I would have felt like a phony. I can't wait to start face pulling and practicing NCR. By the way, shoutout to Ben, Plato, and Tyler for saving me thousands. Now I know with confidence I can reconstruct my facial structure. Yippee! Thanks for letting me share with you all :) I'm happy to be part of the fam. Here's a picture of me that I took today. Can't wait to share my progress with you all! Love, Roz.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: bstratt25 on February 01, 2014, 11:37:32 pm
Welcome :)

This isn't the most busy forum on all of the Internet but it's definitely a small group of very intelligent cranium enthusiasts. It's such an unlikely and quirky special interest we share here.

Sometime this year I will probably deactivate my website since I'm moving on to other things, but I'll always keep this forum up. It's a nice community.

You can share your youtube channel here by the way.

I do want to say, however you are going about this, proceed with reasonable caution and don't get your hopes up too high. Wait to see how things go. I'd love to say everyone gets the same results but I'd be lying. So good luck and feel free to keep everyone up to date with your experience. Hope you enjoy the forum :)
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rozelynroux on February 01, 2014, 11:51:33 pm
I'm glad to hear you're keeping the forum up. This seems like a nice place to document progress.

I agree, I shouldn't expect too much as far as results go but any improvement will make me happy :) I'm mostly excited about being able to breathe more effectively. Anywho.. I'm excited to finally be chatting with you after all the time I spent reading your posts, lol.  Thanks for leading me here.

Also you might be interested in vitamin K-2. I was reading last night something about k-2 being responsible for facial symmetry and bone development. You might have heard of it before.. It's often taken in conjunction with d-3 to help decalcify the pineal gland.

Here's the link to my YouTube channel by the way:
www.youtube.com/rozroux
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MessiahMews on February 03, 2014, 02:48:15 am
I'm glad to hear you're keeping the forum up. This seems like a nice place to document progress.

I agree, I shouldn't expect too much as far as results go but any improvement will make me happy :) I'm mostly excited about being able to breathe more effectively. Anywho.. I'm excited to finally be chatting with you after all the time I spent reading your posts, lol.  Thanks for leading me here.

Also you might be interested in vitamin K-2. I was reading last night something about k-2 being responsible for facial symmetry and bone development. You might have heard of it before.. It's often taken in conjunction with d-3 to help decalcify the pineal gland.

Here's the link to my YouTube channel by the way:
www.youtube.com/rozroux

I'm interested in the K2, but haven't been able to find a good clean one (without added magnesium stearate, maltodextrins, and other un-needed fillers).  I can get the Vitamin K1 in the form of Biotics Research Bio-K Mulsion.  But it's only K1, but is clean.  A liquid version of K-2 would be the best.

And welcome to the forum!  Your picture reminds me of Jaime Alexander.

And Ben, please don't take your site down.  I refer alot of people to it, to read up on the history of NCR, and other therapies.  The basics and history need to stay, and I would be greatly aggravated to have to search for all of it again.

Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rozelynroux on February 03, 2014, 10:45:23 am
Thanks for the heads up about the k-2! I'll keep a look out for a clean product for both of us. In the meantime I think I might try to make my own natto (fermented soybeans) because it is a natural source of k-2. Besides, I love fermented foods and soybeans.

As for the website, a good idea might be to save the information in PDF form, so you can attach the file to emails for convenience purposes. Just a thought :) or perhaps A new thread could be started with the history of NCR being the first post?

Thank you for the compliment :D I looked her up and she's beautiful. I often get Marilyn Monroe and Scarlett Johanson. Marilyn's face fits the golden mask perfectly, so she is the ideal beauty in my opinion.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MessiahMews on February 03, 2014, 11:18:40 pm
Thanks for the heads up about the k-2! I'll keep a look out for a clean product for both of us. In the meantime I think I might try to make my own natto (fermented soybeans) because it is a natural source of k-2. Besides, I love fermented foods and soybeans.

As for the website, a good idea might be to save the information in PDF form, so you can attach the file to emails for convenience purposes. Just a thought :) or perhaps A new thread could be started with the history of NCR being the first post?

Thank you for the compliment :D I looked her up and she's beautiful. I often get Marilyn Monroe and Scarlett Johanson. Marilyn's face fits the golden mask perfectly, so she is the ideal beauty in my opinion.

Awesome Thanks!  We refer the Biotics Research K-1 product to expectant parents who want to avoid the Vitamin K shot for their newborns.  The shot itself is toxic and is K-3 (unusable by the body!).  Liquid chlorophyll, leafy greens is also good for expectant mothers, and most can avoid that shot.  I don't do any kind of soy (Soy is GMO), but do love the fermented cod liver oil.

Jaime Alexander played Jessie on the Kyle XY series.  I loved that snarky character Jessie, and she played that part well. She plays Sif on the Thor movies.  I would love to have her face anyday!

(http://www.cinesnob.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/interviews/jaimiealexanderpic.jpg)

(http://cdn3-www.superherohype.com/assets/uploads/2012/11/file_173687_0_get-well-sif.jpg)

My face is FAR from lining up with any Golden Mean Ratio, although it looks much better now.  I have too much buccal fat, and my nose is too big for my face.

I bought one of those NasoFix things to slim it down, since the end is cartilage and easier to manipulate.  In addition to that, I will see about a vShape by Alma Lasers to do further contouring, and other lasers for resurfacing.  My skin itself is pretty good for my age, so I do have something to work with from there.

I found you on facebook by your name, and followed you on there.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rozelynroux on February 04, 2014, 12:21:23 pm
It's funny that her character name is Jessie because that's actually my birth name :)

I take chlorophyll and spirulina nearly everyday in my superfood smoothies. It does wonders for my skin. As for the soybeans, I only eat organic soy beans and organic soy milk. I'm pretty picky about what I eat too because I partly think being raised on a nutrient deficient diet caused the asymmetries I have now. Doesn't bone renew itself over seven or ten years though? Hopefully the k-2 along with a better diet can help developed more symmetrical bones over time. Hmm..

I've seen your pictures documenting your progress. I think you've come a long way! You look vibrant. Did you personally notice any spiritual/emotional benefits from NCR or face pulling?
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MessiahMews on February 04, 2014, 08:10:35 pm
It's funny that her character name is Jessie because that's actually my birth name :)

I take chlorophyll and spirulina nearly everyday in my superfood smoothies. It does wonders for my skin. As for the soybeans, I only eat organic soy beans and organic soy milk. I'm pretty picky about what I eat too because I partly think being raised on a nutrient deficient diet caused the asymmetries I have now. Doesn't bone renew itself over seven or ten years though? Hopefully the k-2 along with a better diet can help developed more symmetrical bones over time. Hmm..

I've seen your pictures documenting your progress. I think you've come a long way! You look vibrant. Did you personally notice any spiritual/emotional benefits from NCR or face pulling?

Thanks for all your kind words.

I haven't noticed any spiritual benefits from NCR, but those came right after AtlasProfilax back in 2006.  Emotional is much better, I think partly due to improved appearance, plus not having near as much body pain.  I'm doing the ABC (Advanced Biostructural Correction) along with NCR which helps the unwinding process go even faster.  Not as much in the winter, since we are stuck inside due to snowy weather and icy conditions.

I had a crappy diet when a young child too, plus my parents insisted I go to the dentist and during the process ruined my teeth, and face.  One pulled a permanent tooth instead of the baby tooth, and left my mouth with three baby teeth remaining until adulthood.  Plus, my mother NOT watching me when I was little and left at home by myself for a few moments, and playing in the back yard, I got kicked in the face by a horse which had gotten loose from the neighbor's house.

I had dentist drilling and filling in imaginary cavities and putting mercury in.  When I got older, those spots were stains, not cavities and I started taking them off myself with a toothpick and baking soda.  My parents basically ruined my face and my health.  Not to mention, they never fought for us to refuse the vaccines, I also didn't need.

There were always cheap boxed cereals, canned foods and no supplements.  The times we did have eggs, steaks, chicken and raw onions, lettuce and tomatoes, I was always thankful for the real food when it came.   I would have loved the raw veggies and fruits back then.  We picked blackberries, honeysuckle and green wild onions and anything that did grow wild in the yard and nearby fields and woods.

It's taken me YEARS to regain my health from the lifelong deficiencies and unneeded treatments.  At least I look better and feel better.

I'm so thankful and grateful for these cutting edge treatments and tech nowadays.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: NCRintheUK on February 05, 2014, 04:21:05 am
Hi everyone,

Firstly I want to thank Ben for creating this forum and to everyone who as contributed thus far. Keep up the good work.

Now for my introduction. My name is Ian or as my friend Plato from the face pulling site http://jawpain-tmjtreatment.com/ likes to refer to me, "patient zero". I am sure that many of you will be familiar with my photos that are online and my story.

I am going to post my full story on the thread started by Dr Mike Mew if you would like to read it there.

I just wanted to introduce myself and let you all know that I fully supportive of everyone on here and what you are all trying to achieve.

I am also the only fully certified NCR therapist in the UK and the only full time one in Europe. I was personally trained by Dr Dean Howell, the developer of NCR at the research institute in San Diego. I have a practice in Lancashire in the northwest of England but am free to travel wherever to treat people. I can offer NCR at a much lower rate than Dr Howell because I don't have such expensive overheads. I have personally had over 50 series (200 inflations) with Dr Howell and Plato and I wore the FaceMAX face pulling device for 3 years plus and I have extensive first hand knowledge of many different types of ortho appliance, including ALF's.

I can be contacted on ianhedley1@hotmail.co.uk if anyone has any personal questions or queries or alternatively I can be contacted on here.

Yours in health,

Ian Hedley
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rockclimbg892 on February 07, 2014, 10:06:02 am
Hi I just want to introduce myself. I found this forum about 2 days ago through searching face pulling and I'm very happy that I found it.

Ive been researching methods to reverse my traumatic extraction orthodontics for the past two weeks and I'm surprised at how many peoe have gone through it. Ive never took the time to question how much my face changed until I started looking into palate expanders online. I noticed the faces of people with beautiful, full toothed smiles and square jaw lines. I began crying last night when I realized how much potential my face could have had and how I may have suffered depression, irritability and breathing problems simply because I had extractions. All 4 of my premolars were removed. I also was recommended to remove my wisdom teeth so there is not hope for me to have 28 teeth. I have decided that I am not going to get implants because I cannot take the chance of having complications from it. The cost is too expensive and the idea of having metal in my mouth doesn't feel safe.

So, Ive come across many different methods to reverse the extraction but like I said I'm not willing to do implants. I found out about homeoblock, and Mike Mew's orthotropics, face pulling, ALF and NCR among other appliances. I fortunately found this website and am so happy that Ive found a group of people who have the same concern aboutheir facial structure and improving it. I found the TMJ website with Plato's story but it doesn't seem like its active.

Anyway, I started pushing the back molars on the left side of my face yesterday and noticed a huge difference in my breathing and concentration that improved dramatically. Ivr had depression and trouble concentrating in school so much that I had to drop out. And I'm dreading going back in a few months. I was talking to my dad and noticed that when he was telling me something I could not only understand it better but could respond faster. It was if my thinking the got faster. I also noticed that when started raising his voice it didn't bother me or make me nervous the way that it usually does. I also started breathing better and felt like a rush of oxygen to my brain. I don't see any physical differences on my face but it seems like I can feel a major difference in thinking and breathing. Being able to just think more clearly is what astounds me the most because I was considering taking a drug or getting on adderall to deal with school for the next few months. I had decided that I was just going to finish school and  after I'm done with college start working ANYWHERE I don't have to think. For example, my parents are pushing me to go to grad school for master's degree and I just refuse to because I know that it will be torture for me to study and I just can't understand anything in lectures. Even watching movies is difficult for me and I have to watch them with subtitles.

So, I just started that little pushing in the back of my molars yesterday and I can't believe it. I can also place my tongue further on the right side of my face which I've never been able to do before. I feel as though I might have created more space in that area. I'm going to continue doing this and see what happens. :)

Rachel
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MessiahMews on February 07, 2014, 08:54:44 pm
Welcome to the forum Ian and Rachel!

It will take me a LONG time for 50 NCR series, considering I have to pay nearly the same amount for travel expenses as the NCR itself.  My face still needs ALOT of work.  Nose is still too big, mouth (lips) too small, and undeveloped mandible, and unfortunately too many missing teeth, thanks to ignorant parents who took me to medical idiots that ruined my mouth at a young age.

In order to do it myself, I'm going to have to take the EndoNasal Cranial Correction version from Jesse Jutkovitz, since the training costs are much less.

@Rachel.  I can relate to crying at what my face could have been.  I'm still very upset over it, although I've had 7 NCR sessions, and have had much improvement.  My NCR doctor (Hillary Lampers, ND) does not do the Face Max as some of the other NCR doctors are now doing.  I think she's had the training, but just doesn't want to use it with her clients/patients.

So in between sessions, I just use my fingers and push out in the same direction as shown on Plato's site and put them in the same area as the wires would have been.  I've been getting results with that. 

I would love to have palate expansion done, but there are no practitioners nearby that offers that either.  To fill in gaps, I want to use the SnapOnVeeners, as I feel the same as Rachel about metal implants in my mouth.  My dad had implants and he ended up getting cancer not long afterwards, so it is a NON solution for me.  My only hope is that the stem cell teeth would be coming in the near future.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Matt91 on February 10, 2014, 05:22:25 am
Just in case people find me 'weird' hanging around here, and missed my first post...

I'm basically looking to NCR for a resolution to my non-specific learning troubles, which are somewhat atypical in relation to the 'standard' ones, i.e ADHD, but nonetheless pretty crippling for any more complicated tasks.

I was delivered via rather panicked forceps, which I believe to be the source of the problem, rather than neurotoxicity from vaccines and all, as is often cited as the premier suspect on the alternative health blogs on the web. I didn't really have any vaccines, bar a couple, and under different conditions to the norm.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rockclimbg892 on February 11, 2014, 03:29:45 pm
Hi MessiahMew,

Thank you for welcoming me. Like I said before, I really appreciate this forum. I feel that I may have found the reason behind some problems that I didn't even know I had and thought they were just a part of who I am. That I would always feel abnormal or uncomfortable in my body.  It wasnt until i started researching about this problem of having extractions that i found out about other people with the same stories and who have positive experiences with HOLISTIC treatments. I think it's important to emphasize the word holistic because messing with any part of your body often has effects and consequenced on other parts of your body that you may not even realize. For example, I'm almost 100% certain that having the premolar and wisdom tooth extractions has affected my breathing greatly and led to anxiety. I can't exactly prove this but i think I just feel uncomfortable all the time because i cant breathe as well. Especially, in serious situations. I cant talk for a long period of time without having to take a huge gasp of air and I feel hard to communicate in those moments.

I haven't purchased any equipment yet, like a helmet or mouth guard but I believe that I will soon. I have also made an appointment with a regular doctor to see what they would suggest about my face and the breathing. I don't expect them to be holistic as they are from a regular hospital but am hoping that they'll refer me to a specialist.
@MessiahMew, I have seen your photos of the changes in your profile after NCR therapy and it really looks stunning. I can't believe that much progress has been made. Congratulations! :) I can relate to you on having my teeth be affected by my parents but I think if they were educated about this it would have been prevented. I still get so angry with my mom about this though. I have been trying what you do, with just pushing at my back molars to go forward with my fingers and I feel a little bit of progress and more space for my tongue. I'm not sure what exactly the results will be for me, as I don't want it to look like I have a gap when I smile.

@MessiahMew, I'm also sorry to hear about your father's cancer. Thank you for sharing that. I think it's so important to let people know about that. My mom was thinking about getting dental implants and now I am even more sure that it's not a good idea. And also, thank you for the input on snap on veneers. It's the first time I've heard of it.

I'm really glad I found this forum!
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Badgerlife on August 31, 2014, 08:24:46 am
Hello to everyone,

My name is Bee and I am so excited I found this website! I come here almost everyday to see if there are any new post, this is by far one of my favorite sites.

Anyhow, let me make a long story short. When I was eighteen I had my bicuspids removed, headgear, and braces. They kept the braces on for almost three to four years, yikes. I guess you don't know what you don't know. After they took off the braces I did not see a problem, if anything I thought I looked better. I did notice after a few years that my nasal labial folds looked weird, deep lines and my smile was quite small. Fast forward ten years later, now I really see the damage. Oh my goodness, the horror of looking in the mirror, the dreadful feelings and regrets!!

I have loads of issues now, the neck pain, the grinding (teeth worn down), the ear problems, the visual issues, breathing...what is breathing? My maxillae looks caved in like someone punched in my mouth, high mandible, increased lower facial height, bags under my eyes, no cheek bones, small lips, open bite from tongue thrusting (not enough room for my tongue). I could go on and on but you get the picture.

I don't even want to socialize with people, I dislike the way I look, I appear to look older than I am. My chin is about to hit the floor. It looks like my mandible is on a vertical slant, I have so much room on the side of my cheeks (three fingers can fit in there), that is how narrow my upper palate is.

I went to see a TMJ specialist and he had me go around in circles, getting MRIs and medical test to just come up empty handed. His best suggestion was....get ready... to remove four more teeth! His theory was: remove the wisdom teeth and the open bite will close. After thousands of dollars later, that was the best he could come up with.

Previous to that I had other consultations but got no where. So, I had enough and went on this eight month journey of non stop searching. In the process that is how I found this site, Mike/John Mew, Plato/Kevin, Claiming Power, Dr. Hang, Dr. Smith, Ian Hedley, Dr Howell, the list could go on and on.

Anyone have any suggestions on what step to take next? I started Myofunctional therapy and currently I am seeing Dr. Gerald H. Smith, we might start the ALF due to cranial distortions. Anyone care to comment on Dr. Gerald H. Smith? I heard he is excellent and has a good reputation. I would love to hear any feedback that you guys might have.

P.S. Will face pulling make the open bite worse? My maxillae looks like it could come forward loads.

Thank you all,

Bee   ;D


Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Wirerose on September 27, 2014, 09:07:30 am
Hello!
I am Zoe, nice to meet you. I am a complete newbie when it comes to NCR and whatnot, don't laugh at me, promise? :)

Anyway, why am I here?
I am here because my face is EXTREMELY asymmetrical, and beyond that, I believe that the fundamentals of NCR might help relieve it to some degree in the future. My face is asymmetrical to a noticeable and immense degree, to the point where I look almost deformed in some photographs. The two sides of my face look super different, in terms of eyelids, eye size, under eyes, cheek bones, forehead, jaw etc etc...
This is because my mum is a psychopath. So, I have had a traumatic life so far, including countless illnesses exacerbated by my mum's non presence and non care in addition to malnutrition because children don't need food right?

It was bad.

So what is the state of things, and what can I do about it?

My teeth are in  a sorry state. More teeth were removed from the right side than the left causing a relative facial collapse. This was completely avoidable but my mother decided to let me be in agony for months instead.
So I think two implants on the right side will help support my facial structure and reduce the rate of collapse. It is feasible that my left side would catch up with my right if I only put implants in the right.

I have an overbite/overjet, untreated because children don't need care right? And I cannot treat it, because the NHS in England won't  cover it, and I cannot afford it.  This causes my upper lips to protrude, and the incisor protrusion is not uniform causing my upper lip to look asymmetrical. To fix this I would have to line up the two front incisors somehow. Any ideas? Fixing this, and the implants, might cause my nostrils to level out a bit.

Facial collapse on one side can cause a deviation of the septum, which has happened, and may have been exacerbated by nasal congestion in the past. I can't do anything about this right now. Though I know there are ways to deal with that in the future. 

And what does NCR have to do with this?

Well, I have noticed that my forehead is not leveled, that is to say the right side of my forehead has a bump and is jutting out somewhat. I think this is partly responsible for the differences in eye size, and eye lids.

I wonder if my mum dropped on my head as a baby and told no one? I wouldn't put it past her.

Anyway, so my reasoning is that if NCR allows cranial movement, and this bump is not natural, my forehead and subsequently my eyelids might level out. This would be a small gain in symmetry, and every little helps in my case.

The problem might be the overjet, if the maxilla moves forward, and my mandible doesn't move to suit, it could get worse?

So:
implants + future braces (including flaring of lower teeth, and expansion of upper palate) + NCR = improvement?

That's the idea anyway. What do you guys think?

I have attached a picture below so you can get a rosy tinted view of the asymmetry, but I would never let you see me not smiling, for I do not have the guts.

Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MessiahMews on November 13, 2014, 12:09:27 am
Hello Zoe,

I see that no one's replied, so I can only give you my experience.

My teeth too, are sorry.  My face was messed up due to a horse kicking me in the face as a young child.  About age 3 or 4, and I, too, blame my mom, because she left me at home by myself to go next door.  So she wasn't watching me.

My face had always had a dish-faced look and it was especially apparent in high school.  From the front, it looked okay, but not from the profile view.

Well, fast forward to 2012, I had my first NCR session with Doc Hillary Lampers, ND.  The palate came forward that first day.   My face is so different than what it used to be.  Also since 2009, I kept falling on ice and falling flat on my back hitting my head on the deck, TWICE.  And another time I fell on ice, but I had padding on, and it didn't seem to hurt.

With an already collapsed face, it seemed to get longer and narrower, but yet, my mandible is short and it was really jammed back into the condyles.

Here is a before and after showing my improvement from 3 years of NCR....

(http://digitalangeldonnadj.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Before-2010_After-2014.png)

The eyes are covered, because they are real distracting.  Before no makeup and after with full makeup.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: rik on November 26, 2014, 03:22:30 am
Hello! Apologies for my poor English as I'm not a native speaker.
Finding this forum and and endulging myself with all it's information has been like a ray of light breaking through a brickwall of despair and I would very much like to thank everyone who has contributed.

Over the past few years I have been feeling very self conscious about my appearance to the point where it's made it impossible for me to look even my own family members in the eye let alone going to social events and approaching new people. I always look tired and unhappy, my face sags and my smile reminds me of a scene in the Simpsons where mr. Burns' smile scares a bus load of school children who refer to him as the boogeymans grandfather. I tried losing weight, I practiced smiling in front of the mirror, tried sucking in my cheeks to make my features seem more pronounced. Nothing worked but clearly something was wrong. This all changed after I saw a picture of me and my friends. I despise the idea of having my picture taken (the only reason why I don't have any social media profiles) but seeing myself from another persons perspective the problem was obvious.

The left side of my face is flatter than the right, my jaw is crooked and I have a receding chin. Luckily this appears to be "self inflected" damage with poor tongue posture as my arches are round and of pretty normal width and I have never had any teeth pulled out. The only orthodontic work I had as a kid was this nightguard which was used to push my front teeth up in to my gums as a cure for a deep bite. And I don't recall ever being a mouth breather.

The effects of poor tongue posture are even more evident when you look at my teeth. My back teeth have worn down to just basically gums due to my palate dropping down. My upper front teeth are pointing directly down and my a half of my bottom front teeth are pointing slightly backwards. Kinda like the left side of my mandible wanted to go forward but my upper front teeth wouldn't allow it, causing the bending.

I honestly didn't get any sleep last night due to the sheer excitement for finding the cure and knowing the parts of my face pulling mechanism are in the mail right now just brings butterflies to my stomach. And feeling a light sense of pressure all over my midface for keeping my teeth together, lips together, tongue on the roof of my mouth just feels awesome in a strange way. Which surprisingly happens very naturally for me.

I am also very interested in self ncr and I would be eternally grateful to anyone willing to help me find the protocol. I found the link to Bens site but it appears to be disabled leaving me to wonder if the paypal payment unlocks the information here: http://web.archive.org/web/20131214022817/http://www.cranialtherapies.org/my-cr-protocol.html
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: feelthefuel on November 26, 2014, 03:26:59 am
Hello! Apologies for my poor English as I'm not a native speaker.
Finding this forum and and endulging myself with all it's information has been like a ray of light breaking through a brickwall of despair and I would very much like to thank everyone who has contributed.

Over the past few years I have been feeling very self conscious about my appearance to the point where it's made it impossible for me to look even my own family members in the eye let alone going to social events and approaching new people. I always look tired and unhappy, my face sags and my smile reminds me of a scene in the Simpsons where mr. Burns' smile scares a bus load of school children who refer to him as the boogeymans grandfather. I tried losing weight, I practiced smiling in front of the mirror, tried sucking in my cheeks to make my features seem more pronounced. Nothing worked but clearly something was wrong. This all changed after I saw a picture of me and my friends. I despise the idea of having my picture taken (the only reason why I don't have any social media profiles) but seeing myself from another persons perspective the problem was obvious.

The left side of my face is flatter than the right, my jaw is crooked and I have a receding chin. Luckily this appears to be "self inflected" damage with poor tongue posture as my arches are round and of pretty normal width and I have never had any teeth pulled out. The only orthodontic work I had as a kid was this nightguard which was used to push my front teeth up in to my gums as a cure for a deep bite. And I don't recall ever being a mouth breather.

The effects of poor tongue posture are even more evident when you look at my teeth. My back teeth have worn down to just basically gums due to my palate dropping down. My upper front teeth are pointing directly down and my a half of my bottom front teeth are pointing slightly backwards. Kinda like the left side of my mandible wanted to go forward but my upper front teeth wouldn't allow it, causing the bending.

I honestly didn't get any sleep last night due to the sheer excitement for finding the cure and knowing the parts of my face pulling mechanism are in the mail right now just brings butterflies to my stomach. And feeling a light sense of pressure all over my midface for keeping my teeth together, lips together, tongue on the roof of my mouth just feels awesome in a strange way. Which surprisingly happens very naturally for me.

I am also very interested in self ncr and I would be eternally grateful to anyone willing to help me find the protocol. I found the link to Bens site but it appears to be disabled leaving me to wonder if the paypal payment unlocks the information here: http://web.archive.org/web/20131214022817/http://www.cranialtherapies.org/my-cr-protocol.html

Apparently it took me so long to type this that the site logged me off.
Sorry.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: MikeyG on November 27, 2014, 10:05:39 pm
Hi everyone!

I first want to say, that I am extremely grateful for the people here and for this website. I have suffered from mouth breathing and nose congestion throughout my entire life. I am now 27. Because of this, I am depressed about my facial appearance. I always knew something was never right in my face but never could pin point exactly why.  After watching a video from Dr. Mike Mew it is crystal clear why. I have everything he described, that being flat cheek bones, long face, receding chin, big nose, and a weak jawline. I would post a photo, but I don't feel comfortable doing so. Maybe I will privately to users who can help me.

After watching Dr. Mew's videos it gave me hope and I started searching methods and found out that face pulling seems to be showing the most results. I would like assistance on creating a pulling device or if any one has simple thumb pulling methods I'd greatly appreciate it. I am planning on getting an online consultation with Dr. Mew, but so far from all his videos, he pretty much has described what needs to be done. But at this point I am desperate and would like his opinion.

I currently have been chewing hard gum, eating harder foods, and go every week to have ROLFING done (which has dramatically changed my posture for the better) Interesting enough, she did something similar to face pulling. She did at one point stick her thumbs in my mouth and pulled. I don't remember which direction exactly, and she also pulled around my cheeks. But she was doing it for different reasons. Not for Maxilla growth.

So I'm here for guidance and help. I'm very sure I can bring back the face that has been hiding under my vertical face growth.

I am determined and fortunately since I work mostly at home, I can wear any crazy contraption pretty much all day.

I am grateful for everyone's input and experiences.
I thank you all.
Mike
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: marie on February 23, 2016, 12:04:27 pm
Hey everyone, I'm marie, just an average high school junior w/ braces.  My main goal is to get rid of my weak chin w/ chewing and face pulling by the end of high school.  Wish me luck!  Sending good vibes to everyone!!!!!!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Ryan on March 10, 2016, 04:18:47 am
Hi marie!
I always forget to look in the introduction topic. But I welcome you and hope you achieve what you are looking for. Have you already started with your plan?
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: angelo22 on September 10, 2016, 05:21:55 am
Hello!
I'm so glad I found this forum! Information is quite lacking and, aside from Dr. Mew's work, some stuff I found online looked a little unrealistic, if not dangerous.

About me... I'm a 21 year old male from Italy and I found out about NCR and this forum from Mike Mew's research.
I am an odontology student so this is all very important to me, and I'd love to become knowledgeable in Orthotropics in the future!
And of course, I'd love to improve my health / appearance :D
I hope I can find the information I'm looking for here, and be helpful as well :)
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: Woohoo068 on September 22, 2016, 02:26:24 am
Hi everyone I'm a newbie :)

I'm seeing Andre Hedger for palate expansion well from October treatment should start.

I'm in the uk

What a great forum it's so nice to read all the posts!
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: mariblu on December 28, 2016, 07:42:13 am
Hello,
I'm an Italian living in London.
I've just found out today that skull changes are feasible without surgery.

thank you for this helpful forum.
Title: Re: Welcome (introduce yourself)
Post by: KatGoddess on September 08, 2018, 12:39:58 pm
Hello everyone
I just discovered NCR today.
I was absolutely in awe!
I couldn't stop reading about it and trying to find out more and more
then I found you..
Im stoked to be here!


Love Kat