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Posted by: Matt91
« on: January 05, 2014, 06:15:00 am »

I'll try to share my thoughts but they're only my unprofessional, non authoritative perceptions... but they still might help clarify things for you.

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People can have negative results from massage, and this is way more invasive than massage. A lot of this is just really obvious and I think if you're worried about "hidden side effects" or something along those lines... it's extremely unlikely, but of course a possibility.

I think you've got the right attitude at any rate. It's good to be cautious.

Yes, we're pretty much agreed, Ben. In attitude and approach, we're simpatico. It's my parents that could do with more convincing, mainly... intuitively, I felt that there is something to this, as soon as I had heard of it.

Amazing that the self-appointed medical authorities have overlooked this. Probably purposefully.

There's always a risk with everything, of course. Not least life itself.

Your points are noted. :-)

Also, if brain fog and memory problems are your only and biggest issues. I'd seriously start by cutting wheat, rye, barley, oats. In other words, gluten and grain free. If a couple of months of STRICTLY 100 % staying of the
dosen't help, then I'd try cutting something else like processed milk. Read up on gluten sensitivity/intolerance wheat allergy.

How's your weight? High? Low? Are you cold often? How do you react to eating food?
Body temperature? Libido? Etc. Are there othet things like these that you have problems with?

Thanks for your continued thoughts and insights.

I believe that my PIQ deficits result in more than just brain fog and memory deficits. It is also the processing, interpreting, and sorting of information. In my case, it is much more debilitating than the more common complaints associated with mild ADD. A gap of 30 IQ points between VIQ and PIQ is pretty pronounced, even amongst 'ADD' sufferers. That's two full standard deviations, if the mean IQ is 100. The gap is even larger between the different elements of the overall IQ scores for each.

Bit embarrassing when you sound like a physicist, but struggle to find your way to class.

As much as people discount IQ tests nowadays, in my case, taking a formal WAIS test was illuminating as to why I appear so smart, but cannot intake information and work as quickly as my VIQ would suggest. A definite cognitive functioning disparity was clearly visible in my results. Given my delayed developmental milestones, this was evident at a very young age, which somewhat excludes some of the 'later environmental' explanations.

I'm of a fairly normal build. Pretty slim overall, but in a healthy way, rather than anorexic. Definitely not fat. Average height for a European; around 6'1" or so.

Eating food I'm alright... no notable reactions to certain foods. I don't eat red meat, as a general rule. Haven't eaten beef in a long time.

I do feel the cold somewhat, but not noticeably more than those around me.

My energy is currently pretty low, but I think that may just be the mild depression that comes with 'awakening', an emotionally compromised past (was seriously considering suicide at 13) and less than ideal life circumstances.

A myriad of attack vectors are being aimed at the general human populace. From EMF's, chemtrails, and now Fukushima... they are trying their level best to kill many of us off. It leaves us with many more possible sources of ill-health to consider, unfortunately.
Posted by: Knoppe
« on: January 05, 2014, 04:53:13 am »

Also, if brain fog and memory problems are your only and biggest issues. I'd seriously start by cutting wheat, rye, barley, oats. In other words, gluten and grain free. If a couple of months of STRICTLY 100 % staying of the
dosen't help, then I'd try cutting something else like processed milk. Read up on gluten sensitivity/intolerance wheat allergy.

How's your weight? High? Low? Are you cold often? How do you react to eating food?
Body temperature? Libido? Etc. Are there othet things like these that you have problems with?
Posted by: bstratt25
« on: January 04, 2014, 07:56:30 pm »

I'll try to share my thoughts but they're only my unprofessional, non authoritative perceptions... but they still might help clarify things for you

More than a million people have been treated with NCR and BNS according to the doctors I talked to back in 2011. Statistically speaking the number of people who have negative results are actually very low (according to them - yes bias may play a role in these stats). We've got to look at the context of why certain people had a negative result. If I were you I'd look at every negative case I could find and figure out if what happened might possibly happen to you and weigh the possible benefits vs risks. For example hypermobility, I think of it as persistent "cranial sensitivity" will definitely occur with continual or overly powerful treatments and that's one of the reasons people take breaks. This is easily known, when I lay down at night on my pillow after the 3rd or 4th treatment, I feel a light ache on that part of my head due to the pressure of the pillow. NCR doctors will only treat people 4 times per month (1 consecutive series) to wait for things to become more "solid" again before treating, for this reason supposedly. For the vast majority of people, they get back to normal (insensitive/immoble) quickly, and the more they have NCR the faster they recover after a series but it's not understood why there are a few rare people (like the two people in that thread you linked) who remain sensitive, or develop other issues surrounding that. My laymans guess is it's because they had a major head injury during a time when they're very sensitive. Everyone knows that you should avoid hitting your head or doing something that puts yourself at unnecessary risk to your skull after NCR because the injury will be worse (like those people in the thread).  Yeah the NCR specialists will definitely downplay negative results and upplay positive ones to the extent of human nature - I mean my doctor was eager to jump to assumptions that it helped me with things that I later learned were more placebo effects than anything else. But I'm not going to go back and correct the testimonial now for those little things - you know? That happens in all forms of medicine. And on that note I think the extent of the allopathic world attacking therapies like this wouldn't go so far as fake reviews... it's enough just to have Stephen Barrett write a crappy, shallow article about NCR/BNS on his high-ranked webpage; and to keep control/persuasion over the editors of major medical journals. Howell and company have been having a really hard time submitting anything to a medical journal from what I've gathered, but I think they've got a couple articles in a lesser known journal, somewhere...

People can have negative results from massage, and this is way more invasive than massage. A lot of this is just really obvious and I think if you're worried about "hidden side effects" or something along those lines... it's extremely unlikely, but of course a possibility.

I think you've got the right attitude at any rate. It's good to be cautious.
Posted by: Matt91
« on: January 04, 2014, 05:57:17 pm »

There are before and after pictures on platos's site.

What negative experiences are you reffering to? I'd like to read them. I looked around myself and found 2. One woman who heard a crunching noise and who claims that se got deformed and the two deaths (one elderly person with osteoporosis and an infant). Appart from those, do you have any more? Which practitioner harmed people?

You're correct in that it's Jesse Js' system. There's a thread about it here on the forums. Ask MessiahMews who gets treatments from one of those practitioners.

In the end it's up to you. It's healthy being a skeptic. Listen to your gut. If it dosen't feel right then don't do it. There may be other ways for you to reach your goals.

The 'Neurocranial Restructuring Works' group on dailystrength.org hosts a bunch of threads... a few of them are negative responses.

There's this guy; http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/neurocranial-restructuring/discussions/messages/9343387

This lady apparently had bad results, but cannot find the details; http://www.dailystrength.org/groups/neurocranial-restructuring/discussions/messages/9624380

One here, don't know if it's the one you refer to; http://curezone.org/forums/am.asp?i=1478284

There are some negatives on this forum, even, if only minor niggles.

There are a couple of others that I cannot find at the moment, but that my mum has found. One woman was complaining of back pain and associated troubles. One guy was reporting dental issues?

There are plenty of positive testimonials, and I'm leaning towards having it done, just need some more information to cement the determination.

I'm sure that we are all wise enough here to appreciate that those most iniquitous allopathic profiteers of human misery are capable of fielding false testimonials in order to intimidate potential NCR aficionados into inaction.

The possibility that some NCR practitioners may be downplaying the risks of the procedure through multiple proxy accounts on these websites, also exists.

My gut says, 'do it.' There are some lingering doubts in my mind, and, also, in the mind of my folks.

As my username would suggest, I'm 22, and I'm not financially independent, so my parents still hold sway over what I do and when.

But I still feel that this has the possibility, in time, to improve my situation rather dramatically. And if my PIQ was to match my VIQ, I'd have much more of a future to look forward to, if only in that I will be much more capable of coping with life's challenges, which tend to be especially pronounced when you refuse to be a servile, self-deluded sycophant.

I don't have much to look forward to, otherwise.

Meh. We all got to die sometime. Must play some more Skyrim beforehand, though. :D
Posted by: Knoppe
« on: January 04, 2014, 05:17:57 pm »

There are before and after pictures on platos's site.

What negative experiences are you reffering to? I'd like to read them. I looked around myself and found 2. One woman who heard a crunching noise and who claims that se got deformed and the two deaths (one elderly person with osteoporosis and an infant). Appart from those, do you have any more? Which practitioner harmed people?

You're correct in that it's Jesse Js' system. There's a thread about it here on the forums. Ask MessiahMews who gets treatments from one of those practitioners.

In the end it's up to you. It's healthy being a skeptic. Listen to your gut. If it dosen't feel right then don't do it. There may be other ways for you to reach your goals.
Posted by: Matt91
« on: January 04, 2014, 04:09:50 pm »

Are there any 'before' photos of him around?

Just wondering whether anyone here has actually seen the guy for treatment and can offer their experience?

I'm still a tad unsure as to whether go ahead or not. Not to cast aspersions on any personalities or claims made on this forum, but there are still many question marks in my head, surrounding the treatment. I've got parents to convince, and even if I can pull that off, it's not going to be a breeze getting to the place, paying for the hotel, paying for the treatment, et cetera.

There are some pretty negative testimonials on the web, which doesn't help matters.

Trying be as objective as possible. A realist. How much of a risk is it? These guys are all certified and insured, right?

And another thing...

Isn't/wasn't Jesse Jutkowitz of ABC fame, a Scientologist? What prompted the disciplinaries, reported violations and the licence revocation?

I'm not one to prejudge other's belief systems unduly, but Scientology doesn't exactly have a great rep in the whole 'ethics' department, their doctrines and beliefs are just bizarre beyond all consideration, and their conduct is creepy in the extreme.

Too many in the alternative health field, are seemingly cashing in, unscrupulously, on the growing disillusionment with allopathy. Not aimed at anyone here. But it is plainly obvious that some names floating around in the zeitgeist, have succumbed to the very same greed that has so corrupted the mainstream, alleged 'medicine' that exists today. The same 'medicine' that results in several HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of iatrogenic deaths annually, in the United States alone. I know that people have got expenses, and we all need to survive, but my...

Serving greed, avarice, ego, and lust for power, does NOT a 'spiritual' person make, no matter the professed beliefs, or lack thereof.
Posted by: FebruaryRichard
« on: January 04, 2014, 03:17:22 pm »

This is what Ian Hedley looks like today: https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/558509_614872281875156_615086086_n.jpg
(Taken off his Facebook)
Posted by: Matt91
« on: January 04, 2014, 11:18:43 am »

Can anyone tell me anything else about NCR?

Contraindications? Dietary changes that I should make? Possibility of complications?

Has anyone else on here seen Ian Hedley?
Posted by: Matt91
« on: December 31, 2013, 02:42:36 pm »

I'm not so in to cranial discrepancies, I'm more into occlusional problems seeing as I myself suffer from a bad bite. How're your dental arches? Wide and U-shaped or narrowmand V-shaped?
Nutrition and hormonal balances? Have you checked your thyroid levels?
There are many, many rocks to turn over. I'd try NCR out and if you can't feel any differance, I'd try checking into nutrition. Hell, I advoce anyone and everyone to stay the hell away from grains. It made a whole difference to me. I've been gluten/grain free for a year and my belly's soooo much better. Grains may make you deppressed.

I'd say that my dental arches are U-shaped.

Not sure about hormones, thyroid levels, and all that. Can they cause these problems?

My learning difficulties were evident at a very young age. When I was learning to walk, for example. Given that my mum was vaccine aware, there wasn't really a whole lot of opportunity for my brain to be damaged by other means. I wasn't dropped on my head or anything.

This leads me to believe that the forceps birth was responsible, which is well known and understood as a possible cause of ADD and similar problems, by everybody; allopaths and otherwise.

If it does turn out to be the cause, it stands to reason that restructuring the cranium to it's original blueprint, would facilitate a decline in symptomology, and perhaps even eradication of the problem altogether, in time.

That's the hope. Maybe it's a 'pipe dream', but if it were possible... wow. It would mean an entirely different life for me.

A better life.
Posted by: Knoppe
« on: December 31, 2013, 02:07:05 pm »

I'm not so in to cranial discrepancies, I'm more into occlusional problems seeing as I myself suffer from a bad bite. How're your dental arches? Wide and U-shaped or narrowmand V-shaped?
Nutrition and hormonal balances? Have you checked your thyroid levels?
There are many, many rocks to turn over. I'd try NCR out and if you can't feel any differance, I'd try checking into nutrition. Hell, I advoce anyone and everyone to stay the hell away from grains. It made a whole difference to me. I've been gluten/grain free for a year and my belly's soooo much better. Grains may make you deppressed.
Posted by: Matt91
« on: December 31, 2013, 07:29:58 am »

Yeah. I stoped listening to others and started making up my own mind when it comes to these things.
How's your dental occlusion? Maybe your face is ok but your teeth would need aligning? How about nutrition? Gluten/wheat intolerance or any similar intolerance? Endocrine problems like thyroid or such? Fungae/candida?

I know that the brain for me is caused by the TMD. It started at the same time I got tinnitus and jaw pains. My whole head feels squashed and I'm concidered handsomeish (if you ask others, I hate my uneven face).

There are a lot of possible reasons. Start turning stones, man! :)

No, no known problems along those lines, as far as I know. Dental occlusion seems fine. I've got a very slight overbite, but apart from that, no problems. Nutritionally, I probably could be making more of an effort, but I don't drink or smoke, avoid sodium fluoride and artificial sweeteners, and I keep my bodily pH in check through bioelectrification; known colloquially as 'zapping.'

My learning difficulty has been evident from a very young age, which is why I somewhat discount the possibility that it is attributable to neurological damage acquired later, and, as mentioned, my mum was pretty much anti-vax from the beginning, so it wasn't vaccine damage.

I've got a fairly typical Northern/Western European facial structure. When I lift my hair up, a slight, gradual angular depression on the left side of the upper forehead is visible, just below the hairline, when compared to the right side, but you wouldn't notice unless you were examining closely.

Although I obviously can't remember my own delivery, it was apparently a pretty traumatic/rushed forceps. I used to cry a lot, as a child, and there is evidence that it was linked to some cranial problem, somehow. Seeing the cranial osteopath would apparently stop the crying and send me to sleep. My mother was just sneered at, when she reported as much to the mainstream docs.

On that note what the hell is wrong with the freaks in the medical fields nowadays? The internet is jam-packed with stories consistently illustrating the utter lack of care, compassion, and competence of those working in allopathic medicine. It's almost a requirement.

I can't stand all of the pop culture adulation that MD's and the like receive... they certainly don't earn it, any more than they earn their monster salaries.

Even myopia is a big scam. The vast majority of it is easily preventable. Unless it is congenital or caused by trauma, short-sightedness can be preempted through the use of plus lenses, particularly before pseudomyopia sets in.

We live in a world of lies and liars.
Posted by: Knoppe
« on: December 31, 2013, 05:53:43 am »

Yeah. I stoped listening to others and started making up my own mind when it comes to these things.
How's your dental occlusion? Maybe your face is ok but your teeth would need aligning? How about nutrition? Gluten/wheat intolerance or any similar intolerance? Endocrine problems like thyroid or such? Fungae/candida?

I know that the brain for me is caused by the TMD. It started at the same time I got tinnitus and jaw pains. My whole head feels squashed and I'm concidered handsomeish (if you ask others, I hate my uneven face).

There are a lot of possible reasons. Start turning stones, man! :)
Posted by: Matt91
« on: December 31, 2013, 05:42:46 am »

Matt. It's worth a try if you can afford it. Health is worth almost anything.

Living in England gives you the option to either see Mr.Patient zero himself in Manchestet (Ian) or one of the endo nasal baloon chiropractors that follow the ABC protocol residing in the south of england. Check advanced biostructural correction.

I'd meet with Ian first, seeing as he is a former patient of Dr.Howell and has made his way back from a horrible state.

/Knoppe

Thanks, Knoppe.

I had heard of Ian Hedley from my internet research.

I've found 'ianhedley1@hotmail.co.uk' as his email address. I'll try to contact him.

Are there any details available for this ABC guy/gal?

How common are negative results/effects from cranial restructuring? Every alternative health modality comes under attack by the prevailing allopathic orthodoxy; the more fringe, the more vicious the attack, no matter the empirical evidence. Accordingly, CR receives a lot of ridicule, as you all are probably aware. I've long since learned to ignore these attacks.

That said, there are some negative accounts on the web, of NCR, and not just the two well-known deaths. It's impossible to absolutely verify the honesty of the source, of course, and whether they are just fabricated attacks by the usual suspects. I've learned the hard way that these pretended 'skeptics' can be pretty damn underhanded and deceitful.

What is the balance of experience on here of NCR?

Strange thing is, (not bragging, but...) I've actually got a pretty handsome, angular, and symmetrical face... it's one of my saving graces, in light of my problem. There are a few minor asymmetries in structure, like my brow ridge is slightly more pronounced on one side, but generally, I look alright.

I still think that my learning issues are attributable to a structural issue, unless anyone can offer a more likely explanation. Trying to be as objective as possible, here. I'm sure that some of the allopaths would argue that 'ADD' can be genetic, but that's generally just the argument they use to cover up their ignorance/denial of causative factors that suggest purposeful deception by the various appointed figureheads, 'experts' and authorities.

Anyway, thanks for the help, everybody. It is appreciated.

God bless you, one and all.

~Matt
Posted by: Knoppe
« on: December 30, 2013, 04:19:17 pm »

Matt. It's worth a try if you can afford it. Health is worth almost anything.


Living in England gives you the option to either see Mr.Patient zero himself in Manchestet (Ian) or one of the endo nasal baloon chiropractors that follow the ABC protocol residing in the south of england. Check advanced biostructural correction.

I'd meet with Ian first, seeing as he is a former patient of Dr.Howell and has made his way back from a horrible state.


/Knoppe
Posted by: Matt91
« on: December 29, 2013, 02:44:44 pm »

Hey Matt, I can't say whether I've heard anyone improving in the specific way you're describing, but I'm not at all discounting it either. I mean no offense to Dr. Howell but the statement they gave you was the generic one NCR specialists give everyone... it's pretty meaningless. You do have to walk into one of their clinics, and frankly most of them won't run proper diagnostics - they can tell you what they've dealt with experientially however -- but many of them have to deal with liabilities surrounding scope of practice and can't give you full answers or make any medical promises whatsoever. You'd need to see someone like Dr. John Lieurance in Florida, or maybe Dr. Howell himself. I'm sure both have seen many patients like you in the past... it's just a very specific issue, and your theory could actually be incorrect

By far the most likely thing that will improve from NCR relevant to this is mental clarity. Brain fog is usually eliminated over time, it won't go away all at once but can be significantly improved...oftentimes people like me who had it their entire lives didn't even realize it was there. Your whole world is just sort of foggy, and it can be difficult to retrieve information - working memory can be impaired.

If I were you, I'd give it a try: one session. You'll know in a single session whether this actually helps you with mental functioning. At that point you'll realize it's probably a long road ahead of you for a full recovery, or you'll realize this therapy is useless for your condition, but I wish you the best and what you're trying to achieve is definitely achievable.

Thank you very much for your feedback, Ben.

My theory could well be incorrect, it's merely the most likely explanation, to my mind, having closely examined the circumstances and possible causal linkages.

My mother, having worked for some notable Big Pharma companies in her time, was pretty careful with me, given the things she was privy to. I didn't have any of the vaccines that the other children had, and I believe that I was catered for properly, nutritionally speaking, in addition to many visits throughout my childhood to cranial osteopaths, homeopaths, naturopaths, and so on.

To quote from Dr Howell's website...

'Learning disabilities are frequently treated with prescriptions of Ritalin, a nervous system stimulant. The prevailing theory is that neurotransmitter deficiency in the brain leads to malfunctioning of the brain. The immediate solution is to increase neurotransmitter levels throughout the brain with Ritalin to correct the deficiency. This medication often helps, but it does not cure. It increases the levels of some neurotransmitters throughout the brain. The effectiveness of Ritalin shows that learning disabilities are not psychological but are, instead, conditions created by problems with nervous system function. A nervous system stimulant like Ritalin works by changing levels of neurotransmitters in the cerebrospinal fluid in the brain. This means that inappropriate levels of neurotransmitters in specialized areas of the brain cause learning disabilities. When the brain lacks neurotransmitters in some areas, concentration or interpretation of visual or auditory phenomena is impaired. So increasing the level of these neurotransmitters helps to temporarily get rid of the problem.

Then why doesn't everybody with learning disabilities take Ritalin or some similar medication? The problem with administration of Ritalin is the side effects, which are generally symptoms associated with other areas of the brain becoming overdosed with neurotransmitters. If some areas of the brain improve function by increasing levels of neurotransmitters, and if other areas of the brain get side effects by increasing the same, there is a problem of distribution, not a deficiency of neurotransmitters. So the symptomatic treatment of learning disabilities with medication that increases the level of neurotransmitters can never cure the problem because it doesn't address the situation properly.

A cure of learning disabilities must include optimization of fluid flow characteristics in the brain. With optimal flow of blood and cerebrospinal fluid, learning disabilities improve or cease.

The approach of NCRŽ is to improve the flow of cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) by changing the shape of the skull. As the cranium optimizes, the flow of CSF becomes more and more uniform, removing the problem of poor distribution of the fluids in the brain.'


This seems to be the most likely explanation, for my case.

If I opt to go ahead, I will probably go in for a session with Dr Howell himself, when/if he returns to the UK/Eire at some point in the coming year. A friend of mine suggested 'craniosacral therapy' but given the above, I'm not convinced that it would do anything, in my case.

I think that most people who are diagnosed with 'ADD' or similar, simply take the drugs as prescribed. From my experience, some of them do report a certain degree of benefit, though studies have illustrated that the stimulants have pretty much the same effect on those without ADD, and it just doesn't address the crux of the problem.

A four-day treatment session with Dr Howell in Dublin (new patient) runs at 1300 USD, or at least it did, earlier this year.

Hmmm...