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Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 14, 2018, 02:43:18 pm »

This whole concept of changing our appearance is really a new venture and so this web site, after all, should in my opinion be viewed more like a frontier kind of exploration into what is possible, and less like a place to come for comfort or being told 'yes, this will definitely work' or 'no, this is impossible'.

So I'd just say, really explore around and learn - not just here but expand your search to the wide Internet, and not just among "weirdo" groups like ours.

That's what I did and I'm always learning something new to add onto my development, and it's pretty great.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: May 14, 2018, 02:38:23 pm »

I can't honestly say, but I think it's fairly certain to say that there's reason for everyone to have hope if they also have a will.

I lost two of my wisdom teeth as well, and the upper back one on my left side has basically deteriorated, so it's going to come out soon.

My face is really fine, though. In fact, even without those wisdom teeth, my face is more harmonious than it was when I was younger.

In my experience tho, what is really helping a lot is just things like, correct nutrition, chewing to exercise the muscles, correcting inner problems like toxic nonsense from our polluted world - stuff like that.

Probably it would be massively helpful to learn how calcium is really absorbed and put into our bones, because just drinking milk has given us brittle bones after all. So I bet that there is actually some kind of secret in the K vitamins, calcium, phosphorous, magnesium, and vitamin D. According to my research, those might be the combination needed to gain bone strength, and who knows? Maybe even grow our bones to a certain extent.

Face-pulling appears to also be useful, but I think that it is just a combination of everything that is the real ticket.

Everyone wants a 'magic bullet' or formula or single action to solve a problem, but my experience is life does not work that way.

We have to have a real will and volition to do everything required in order to reach our goal. Notice I wrote everything, not anything. People who will do anything will even cheat by getting surgeries. Totally crazy if you ask me.
Posted by: Feli
« on: May 07, 2018, 12:03:16 pm »

I am in the exact situation as you. I had all 4 wisdom teeth extracted 16 months ago and my face is a mess now. I also don't know which treatment is best in this situation, and the dentists and oral surgeons I have visited don't believe the wisdom teeth extraction caused these changes, and also refuse to implant wisdom teeth. I notice you wrote this a while ago, how did you move forward to fix the changes to your face?
Posted by: piper25
« on: February 28, 2015, 01:37:10 pm »

Hello, I had my two upper wisdom teeth removed about 17 months ago and since then my face has changed dramatically, definitely the worst decision I've made yet. I got them removed thinking I had to for braces to correct an overbite. Knowing what I know now, I never had to do that. I have an overbite/deepbite and wanted to get it corrected, big mistake. I figured, at the time, all of this was no big deal, since so many people do this. If I would have just researched a little I could have saved myself so much heart ache, stress and money. I began correcting my deepbite with invisalign and the ortho started changing the angle of the lowers before moving the uppers out of the way, which forced my lower jaw too far back, so now I have tmj along with the facial changes. My jaw functioned perfectly prior to all of this, even with a deepbite. I then switched to braces and the tmj has seemed to improve, but have lost my faith in traditional orthodontics. I have switched to a functional ortho that specializes in tmj to see if he can help me. Such a nightmare, I would give anything to go back to my original face and overbite. Luckily im not that far along in treatment, otherwise things would have been even harder to correct. Anyways, im at a loss now as you can tell, im just praying the functional ortho can help. It seems my mid face has sunken in a bit, which has changed the overall shape of my face. It looks longer and more oval shaped and is no longer symmetrical, I lost the shape of my jaw. I have thought about getting dental implants to replace my wisdom teeth to prevent further bone resorption and to possibly provide support by stimulating bone growth, but no one seems to want to do that and they think im crazy for asking. The implants would have to be in the exact place as the wisdom teeth though, it may just make things worse, idk. Sorry so long.
Do you think face pulling would help in my situation?
Also NCR?
Unfortunately the only NCR practitioner closest to me is a 4.5 hour drive away, wish more were trained, there doesn't seem to be that many around.