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Posted by: Tyler
« on: September 13, 2017, 03:42:47 pm »

On a stranger positive note, my skin is almost eerily healthy now. I used to chain smoke, and had an ashy skin complexion like parchment paper, but today I have glowy skin like a teenager minus the awkward acne phase ...  :o :o I think my scar is even starting to fade, the one I got when I was a toddler and crawled up to the dog's food bowl to investigate
Posted by: Tyler
« on: September 13, 2017, 03:30:52 pm »

I already study fringe science and learned that genes can be altered by food (and also by the music we listen to, as well as by the thoughts we cultivate and maintain) from the archive of knowledge at "the free community of interests in fringe and border sciences and ufological studies" - FIGU for short.

So for me it is just normal now, and nothing remarkable, since it is just a natural fact of how the universe operates in my mind, which makes complete sense so I just calmly adapt with it and don't feel it is anything miraculous. Although it is still very, very rewarding and makes me very joyful - mainly the fact that it means power to change ourselves even drastically is in every person's hands.

I just snipped out the ... nerdish hypothesis about how it actually minutely works on a cellular level. It just is very, very cool, I know ^_^;;
Posted by: Progress
« on: September 13, 2017, 02:35:06 pm »

Ha, when you set on to change your face in spite of respected professionals dismissing it as impossible, claiming that the face you have now is the genetic expression of "you" that you were meant to have, how could anything that happens next not be an adventure?

But yes, I understand 100% what you mean by having the intuitive knowledge that your face is lacking in some way.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: September 13, 2017, 02:11:47 pm »

No sadly but if it says anything, I used to feel very uncomfortable seeing my profile years back when my face basically lacked itself. Now I actually have my own face, so I love to take selfies now, If I don't get a good hobby and start sculpting clay soon like my dream was to start, I run the risk of turning into Narcissus soon

Also I really would not call it a journey because that implies it is an adventure. But week by week and month by month and year by year I do feel more ready and willing to *do* something adventurous.
Posted by: Progress
« on: September 13, 2017, 07:38:57 am »

Tyler, do you have any similar side profile pics from before you embarked on this journey?
Posted by: Tyler
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:46:32 pm »

Oh yeah, check out my other recent post. Loading so much nourishment into my body seems to have knocked out any problems of noticable assymetry, and I look pretty great to myself today. If I get any more handsome I'm going to need a good hobby or else I'll die from lack of food as I just gaze at myself in selfies.
Posted by: Tyler
« on: September 12, 2017, 03:39:20 pm »

Actually I read that whites aren't born to have cheekbones. That's more of a black human or red human trait, or asian.

I mean, I suppose it is a serious nordic trait too, but that's going back quite a ways.

Here's yours truly with glorious white non-cheekbones but a lot of healthy weight gained mainly from drinking whole milk and eating olives and hamburgers and moringa / spiruluna and hearty oatmeals and consuming lots and lots of cold-pressed flax seed oil (mixed flax oil and moringa powder makes a disgusting potion but it does the trick to nourish, and quick):

Takes a smile sometimes to see these apples, but they show up - with health and fitness.

Note: Back in my young days I had a jewfro and a bit of bulbousy nose and actually have thought I was Jewish. But since the transformation I'm actually *seriously* English, and somehow it was just hiding under a Jewish look.
Posted by: z0nt0n3r
« on: September 02, 2017, 05:17:10 pm »

yeah it feels a little weird.i have a bit of forward head posture which i think is also responsible for my shoulder right trap is also a bit lower than than the left.i'm doing some neck stretching exercises the last few weeks to improve the problem.
Posted by: Progress
« on: September 01, 2017, 06:10:43 am »

i have an issue too.i dislocated my right shoulder 5 years ago and ever since the doctors put it back in my right shoulder is more forward than the right side of my face is more recessed right face side was recessed before i suffered the dislocation so i don't know if it's correlated but the injury definitely won't help in getting my face symmetrical

Try this:
1. Tense your core from hips to upper chest
2. Without allowing your spine to rotate, push & bend one shoulder to one directional extreme and the other shoulder to the opposite directional extreme.
3. While maintaining the tension created by the shoulders moving to opposite directions, start rotating your shoulders in circles. For the whole circular movement keep the shoulders in their maximum range of motion at 180 degrees from each other, and try to maintain static amount of resistance through the rotation (which you won't be able to do at first if the shoulders are in a state of imbalance).
Posted by: z0nt0n3r
« on: August 31, 2017, 06:52:40 pm »

i have an issue too.i dislocated my right shoulder 5 years ago and ever since the doctors put it back in my right shoulder is more forward than the right side of my face is more recessed right face side was recessed before i suffered the dislocation so i don't know if it's correlated but the injury definitely won't help in getting my face symmetrical
Posted by: Progress
« on: August 31, 2017, 11:01:15 am »

IMO Starecta is the base. face pulling and expansion imo wont give you the results you want without starecta.
Starecta is the anti-base. To start from the base you'd have to actually start from the base. Starecta argues that posture and structure is determined by the bite, while in my view it's clear that the bite you have is determined by your posture.  Starecta is a top to bottom approach, starting from the most superficial dysfunction (bite) and continuing the way down towards the most primal, original dysfunction (usually hips or feet). But there's no way to guarantee you'll ever reach all the way down to the the feet, or whatever is the REAL base of your postural problems.

Working your way in ascendion from bottom to up, on the other hand, is comprehensive, because you won't be able to move on to the next link in the chain before have the former parts of the chain in full control. But you CAN accidentally miss a link when progressing in descending order.

The before-after pictures of the creator of the Starecta method do show improvements, but the final posture is still far from ideal - he needs to go further.

In contrast, this is how I stand:

Final results vs work in progress. See the relationship between the head and upper torso. Or position of head & hips. He is semi-literally sloughing compared to me. See the difference in core activation and athletic form. I don't do any sports at the moment, yet I look fit, because instead of merely opening the body, I have strengthened it and learned to actually USE it in daily movements. I'm functionally symmetrical up to somewhere around the upper chest area. When the remaining musculature above this area starts to finally work in unison with the rest of the body, the wholesome forces of the changed movement patterns will start to reshape the facial structure into a more symmetrical form. My jaw has already started hanging towards the less developed side of the maxilla, meaning that some static structural pressure is already being generated into that direction.
Posted by: thebigbird
« on: August 31, 2017, 10:10:07 am »

IMO Starecta is the base. face pulling and expansion imo wont give you the results you want without starecta.
Posted by: Progress
« on: June 16, 2017, 05:28:04 am »

Yeah, it is a similar problem to facepulling without fixing tongue posture, meaning that the body will collapse again until it has collapsed enough that something starts supporting it. Ideally this support system would keep you standing straight and symmetrically instead of merely keeping you standing in whatever position takes the least effort. Overall it's more effective to strengthen the weak muscles than massage the tight muscles, because strengthening the weak lengthened muscles will automatically also lengthen the tightened overworking muscles, but massaging tight muscles does not automatically teach you how to use the weak muscles, slacking of which led to the asymmetrical tightness in the first place.

I have asymmetrical hips too by the way, and my mother think she has one leg longer than the other. I doubt that. Can you remember what kind of targeted massages were performed for your hip area?
Posted by: Progress
« on: June 15, 2017, 01:41:18 pm »

Today I got the point... to determine if the asymmetry of cheekbones is muscle related... there are instruments who works specifically for this propouse. Things get more specific when we get our muscle force checked by proper instruments.. today I have been checked by myo therapist (tongue/lips/masseters) and surprise surprise....... the underdeveloped part has a weaker masseter force. Feels right enough?

This method is definitely a way to know what is actually going on in your face and even thought it's made specifically to build the patient diagnosis it will make your own situation clearer to yourself.

That sounds interesting, what about the rest of your body? I suspect it's not likely just the masseter that has asymmetrical fitness, but your whole body (and whether muscle asymmetry is a consequence of skeletal asymmetry or the skeletal asymmetry a consequence of poor muscle tone is another thing that will probably be taken into consideration). Your shoulders, torso, hips and legs probably have some form of muscular asymmetry too, especially surely if you have asymmetrically performed hobbies like tennis.

Did they talk anything about this?
Posted by: Progress
« on: June 05, 2017, 07:00:55 am »

Play nice, Progress! You are usually very kind to everyone

That much is true my friend, I am a particularly virtuous and self-aware human being. I enjoy sharing with others some nuggets of the information I happen to find and synthesize through practical experience into verified knowledge, all while I am merely trying to make my own interaction with the surrounding subjective reality more convenient.

In spite of this, I have little patience for anyone attempting to present broad binary statements as unexceptionable facts while shouting it all from behind a false sense of authority of a company selling trademarked products, as if reaching such conceptually trivial milestone would be enough to guarantee that precisely their empirically derived subjective perspective on the objective human anatomy is so intellectually superior and socially righteous that basically no one would feel the need to wonder about the validity of their claims.

If you believe you are worthy of respect, you can approach as yourself, on your own behalf. Your identity is not the company you're representing. You are you, with your individual reasoning. You are deluding yourself if you believe that it's possible to get away with a lack of effective argumentation as long as the staments you are making are inside the supposed area of expertise of the company you're representing. That may be how the cogs of the society work in the real world you're familiar with. But whereas the real world is a reality of fundamental inequality where ideas are judged differently depending on who presents them, the internet is a level ground where only the quality of your contribution determines the worth of your presence.