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Posted by: magixx
« on: December 09, 2017, 11:21:33 am »

can someone explain how the belt face pulling is done ? all the threads regarding the procedure are deleted ...
and btw any updates ? especially from jamo716 ? mayb some side b side comparison ?
Posted by: sophiea13
« on: July 10, 2016, 12:10:33 pm »

HI everyone!

I just wanted to say that I appreciate the effort you are putting into finding out the best way to facepull and putting up informational links like the one for face pulling with a belt!

I am with you on that journey.

Regards and keep up the good research :)
Posted by: W
« on: June 28, 2016, 11:50:12 am »

@nobody.  Thank you for your reply and diagram.


I get what you're saying...Over the past year, I think my back posture has become a bit straighter because I've been 'barefoot' exercising and wearing shoes, less.  This has resulted in strengthened ankles and straighter/more spaced out toes. (I believe Dr. Mew is currently doing research on the form /function of the feet, and body/oral posture, so that will be interesting...) Now, if I stand up straight and look straight ahead in the mirror, the sclera does show a tiny bit.

I think you're right that my posture is changing, but my maxilla hasn't swung upwards/forwards yet.. (Actually, the sclera probably isn't as bad as I imagine...It's not really noticeable unless looking close up. It also seems to go through periods of improving and regressing, which is things adjusting, perhaps)  Come to think of it, I've always had a 'tilted upwards' head and I guess my features just adapted to that, even though it wasn't optimal...

However, my side cheekbones came out a bit since I've been mewing.  However, I have a tongue-between-teeth thing happening on the right side of my dental arch, so I doubt my maxilla can properly go up/forwards, until that's sorted.  Can't for the life of me expand it with my tongue though.




Posted by: nobody
« on: June 28, 2016, 07:12:30 am »

@W

It could also be that your scleras are showing more simply because your body posture has gotten better, but your maxilla hasn't.





With poor head forwards posture, the head is often rotated slightly upwards in order to compensate the recessed maxilla. But when the whole head is held in an angle in order to artificially move maxilla to a more optimal position, it inevitably results in the upper half of your face being tilted upwards, causing your irises to stay closer to the bottom eye lid when looking towards the horizon. This helps the bottom eyelids to hide the scleras, although not in a good way biologically.


People with good maxillary positions can set their heads directly towards the horizon line (with chin tucked in) and have no scleras show, because their bone structure gives enough support for the eyelids. Even though in reality their forehead and eyes are angled more downwards than those of someone who is compensating for maxilla. Good faces are almost convex-like whereas recessive faces are concaves (or the other way around, however it goes).

Posted by: W
« on: June 28, 2016, 01:21:31 am »

Thank you both!  Feeling more positive already :)
Posted by: Gucci Gang
« on: June 27, 2016, 06:54:06 pm »

just keep on going, keep mewing hard and smiling hard with proper head posture throughout the day, chew hard foods and chewing gum and do Jaw exercises to build muscle tone and strength to keep your mouth closed while you sleep, And keep doing the ordinary face pulling and belt face pulling and you should have enough space for your tounge in no time,
And thats when you'll really shine and your results will skyrocket
Posted by: jamo716
« on: June 27, 2016, 12:44:34 pm »

Good luck buddy! Remember not to hurt yourself. Listen to your body, not how much time you think you need to be pulling.
Posted by: W
« on: June 27, 2016, 12:04:16 pm »

Thanks for your replies.   Much appreciated!

Gucci- I've been mewing for a year with some slight improvement..But, there's still not enough room for my whole tongue to go flat against the palate, on both sides.  My local orthodontist only offers removable appliances to children, according to their website.  But, they offer Damon or Invisalign to adults, so I may try whichever one can widen my dental arches.  You're right- I should also tape my mouth shut before I sleep!

Jamo- I hope you're right and it's just my face adjusting! The sclera doesn't always show under my right iris. So it could be my posture, that's off.  The sclera always shows a little bit under my left iris, though.  My whole face is asymmetrical, really.  Want to continue face pulling...Hope I start to feel pressure in my cheekbones, soon.
Posted by: jamo716
« on: June 27, 2016, 10:12:38 am »

Since you started a few days ago your bones and sutures may be so loose that you're experiencing temporary enlivenment (?) In the long term, proper oral posture + pulling should only shorten the face. Also, yes, generally you want to pull upward and forwards to get the best result. If you have a longer face, focus on the vertical force.
Posted by: Gucci Gang
« on: June 27, 2016, 08:32:59 am »

Hi,
I'm new to face pulling.  I started a few days ago to try and improve my receded face after extraction orthodontics as a teen (and my face was pretty bad before then! :-[). I've been biting down on a doubled-up ribbon, rather than a belt, so that I could keep the teeth in contact. 

Initially, I felt aches in the back of my neck.  But now I get random aches in my forehead, especially where I have a few dents which I got from one or two knocks, as a child.  No pressure feelings in my cheekbones yet, so I'm wondering if I'm doing it right?...Not sure if you pull vertically with your arms up by the sides of your ears, or upwards but diagonally? 

Also, I think this has caused some facial lengthening, somehow....I've always had a tiny bit of sclera showing under my left iris, but now I'm getting a bit under my right, as well.   Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on??


I dont know what to tell you, maybe youre mouth breathing.

Just keep on doing it and mew, make sure your mouth is closed while you are sleeping, doung this loosens the bones.
Posted by: W
« on: June 27, 2016, 06:09:17 am »

Hi,
I'm new to face pulling.  I started a few days ago to try and improve my receded face after extraction orthodontics as a teen (and my face was pretty bad before then! :-[). I've been biting down on a doubled-up ribbon, rather than a belt, so that I could keep the teeth in contact. 

Initially, I felt aches in the back of my neck.  But now I get random aches in my forehead, especially where I have a few dents which I got from one or two knocks, as a child.  No pressure feelings in my cheekbones yet, so I'm wondering if I'm doing it right?...Not sure if you pull vertically with your arms up by the sides of your ears, or upwards but diagonally? 

Also, I think this has caused some facial lengthening, somehow....I've always had a tiny bit of sclera showing under my left iris, but now I'm getting a bit under my right, as well.   Please, can anyone tell me what might be going on??

Posted by: nobody
« on: June 26, 2016, 01:53:44 pm »

I've ended up with a pretty similar technique, but for the warm up session I use a towel. Biting on a towel with all teeth and pulling forward feels much better and effective than pulling forward with just a belt and back molars. I believe it is also closer to the natural function of jaws, very similar to ripping meat / skin off a dead animal. But the belt is still a good tool for generating good amount of upwards force. It may be helpful to keep the ends of the belt quite apart from each other so that the pulling motion widens the palate towards the sides too, instead of pulling just upwards.

Thanks for the OP for this thread and those links. I've been mewing since January with barely noticeable results, but for the last week I've been facepulling with intense short bursts of force and I've been able to feel how my bite gets a little better every day. Today I noticed that I can now see the edges of my cheekbones with my eyes when I look to the sides. For the first time of my life too , since I was put on retractive orthodontics at a very young age. I wonder if an optimal maxilla position would enable one to see his chin too just by looking down.

As much as I hate to romanticizing things, I can't help thinking we truly are pioneers of something new (or old, depending on how you approach the dilemma of modern recessive faces). It looks like the science of facial aesthetics is just on the verge of making a breakthrough on the internet. People in many online communities are beginning to get results, I hope in a few years of time there will be plenty of progress pictures to make facepulling look more legit. Considering how outlandish this method is inevitably going to seem to the average person, well documented evidence is certainly needed. I will definitely post my before/afters if the changes end up being remarkable enough.
Posted by: jamo716 forgot to login
« on: June 25, 2016, 09:40:03 pm »


I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my after before: http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp

Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.

I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.

Thanks for posting. Any insights you may have gained from your conversations with him? Not sure if your clenching in the selfie, but it definitely looks like your getting some results! Your well on your way to depp-like aesthetics, congratulations.

Most of the information you need is in the lookism thread. Him and I agree that using your knees is the most effective way to get the job done. I actually got a very large luggage strap which is much more durable than your average belt. Since it is so long, I can use my legs fully extended to apply pressure. I've been experimenting with two-stage pulling sessions. First I gently pull the maxilla forward. I apply virtually no upward force. Then I switch to pulling almost completely vertically. When you pull upward you can apply way more pressure than forward I have found. I find the gentle pulling forward loosens the maxilla (yes you can actually feel it) and then the upward motion compacts it along with the other structures it drags along. I've been slowing down the last few days because I have a really bad canker sore (1 inch long!) that is causing my entire mouth to hurt, but other than that, steady progress! Good lucks guys and if you want to get into contact with me I guess just leave a reply or PM me.
Posted by: QuantumLookMaxer
« on: June 25, 2016, 08:39:59 pm »


I'm actually in regular contact with this guy. He's video called me twice now, and I can confirm his changes are real. I've also been using his method for nearly four weeks now. Here is my after before: http://imgur.com/1spEw6I,5HEsoRp

Note: I have also been mewing for about five months now.

I'm still noticing changes everyday. Feelsgoodman.

Thanks for posting. Any insights you may have gained from your conversations with him? Not sure if your clenching in the selfie, but it definitely looks like your getting some results! Your well on your way to depp-like aesthetics, congratulations.

Posted by: monarch
« on: June 24, 2016, 05:55:28 pm »

Do you have any photos of your face from the side? I think a good indicator of your maxilla moving is the tip of the nose pointing more up (seen from the side) and the mandible coming forward.